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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Team List Changes for round 19 - Geelong

    Inawson

    Out:
  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16763

    #2
    It will be interesting to see what they do this week. Dawson is a no-brainer to return to the team but, despite the loss, there's no obvious out.

    Fox, as a utility, might well have been the "last" to come into the side last week but he performed pretty well. Well enough to stay, in my book at least. Now that they've brought in a quasi-ruckman, and allowed Aliir and Reid to largely return to their normal spots, it's hard to see them changing back. And that's even before taking into account how creditably McLean performed against the Freo giants. Clarke did what could reasonably be expected of him, and there are plenty of taggable players in the Geelong side. So I imagine he stays too.

    That leaves Stoddart, who was least productive of the four that came into last year's team. But he was the closest to a like-for-like replacement for an injured player - Cunningham. With McVeigh also missing, there's clearly a spot that suits his range of attributes, and I hope they give him more chances to develop. He earned the opportunity with some sustained solid form in the NEAFL.

    So I'm still no closer to working out who might lose their spot this week. I suspect it will be Stoddart but I'll be disappointed if that's the case.

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    • Ralph Dawg
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2018
      • 1729

      #3
      Originally posted by liz
      It will be interesting to see what they do this week. Dawson is a no-brainer to return to the team but, despite the loss, there's no obvious out.

      Fox, as a utility, might well have been the "last" to come into the side last week but he performed pretty well. Well enough to stay, in my book at least. Now that they've brought in a quasi-ruckman, and allowed Aliir and Reid to largely return to their normal spots, it's hard to see them changing back. And that's even before taking into account how creditably McLean performed against the Freo giants. Clarke did what could reasonably be expected of him, and there are plenty of taggable players in the Geelong side. So I imagine he stays too.

      That leaves Stoddart, who was least productive of the four that came into last year's team. But he was the closest to a like-for-like replacement for an injured player - Cunningham. With McVeigh also missing, there's clearly a spot that suits his range of attributes, and I hope they give him more chances to develop. He earned the opportunity with some sustained solid form in the NEAFL.

      So I'm still no closer to working out who might lose their spot this week. I suspect it will be Stoddart but I'll be disappointed if that's the case.
      Liz, how do you think Ollie is going? He's been quite down on form of late and Dawson could certainly do his job. Some might suggest Hayward but I thought his effort was up against Freo and feel that maybe he might just be starting to turn the corner on his recent poor form.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        #4
        RD I was about to write that maybe Ollie needs a week off. Completely agree with you Liz, that Stoddart needs to get experience in the AFL and now is the time to do it.

        OUT: Florent
        IN: Dawson

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          #5
          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          RD I was about to write that maybe Ollie needs a week off. Completely agree with you Liz, that Stoddart needs to get experience in the AFL and now is the time to do it.

          OUT: Florent
          IN: Dawson
          The ability to transition smoothly and quickly out of defence is so important. Riley has been going well in NEAFL, his confidence would be up and given our ladder position and injury circumstances, now is the time to give him a decent run.

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          • Agent 86
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2004
            • 1686

            #6
            I think it’s time that McCartin makes way for someone to who knows where to be without the need for a runner. I like the kid, but he’s as good a man short at the moment.

            I want to see Ollie playing - so not buying into ‘needing a rest’ (sadly, I won’t be in town this week to see it ).

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4212

              #7
              Originally posted by Agent 86
              I think it’s time that McCartin makes way for someone to who knows where to be without the need for a runner. I like the kid, but he’s as good a man short at the moment.

              I want to see Ollie playing - so not buying into ‘needing a rest’ (sadly, I won’t be in town this week to see it ).
              Agree with all of that.

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                #8
                I'm not saying O-Flo should be dropped, only that he looks like he might benefit from one week break.

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                • Meg
                  Go Swannies!
                  Site Admin
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4828

                  #9
                  Changes for round 19 - Geelong

                  Originally posted by Agent 86
                  I think it’s time that McCartin makes way for someone to who knows where to be without the need for a runner. I like the kid, but he’s as good a man short at the moment. ).
                  I’ve been thinking the same thing - McCartin is a very young player and could well do with a week off. And I reckon an experienced player such as Menzel would have positioned himself to be at the drop of the ball for those three times Papley kicked the ball from the boundary line back into the centre in front of the goals.

                  Papley’s kick was the right one - it was the forwards who weren’t there who made the error. (Papley must be really missing Buddy - those two have developed a wonderful understanding of where each will run & kick.)

                  Damn nuisance that NEAFL had a bye last weekend so the MC didn’t get another opportunity to see how Menzel is travelling.
                  Last edited by Meg; 22 July 2019, 09:46 PM.

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Agent 86
                    I think it’s time that McCartin makes way for someone to who knows where to be without the need for a runner. I like the kid, but he’s as good a man short at the moment.

                    I want to see Ollie playing - so not buying into ‘needing a rest’ (sadly, I won’t be in town this week to see it ).
                    Can Dawson play up front? Maybe rest McCartin and have Dawson play that centre half forward role?

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mark26
                      Can Dawson play up front? Maybe rest McCartin and have Dawson play that centre half forward role?
                      Of course he could, got some size and strength, great game sense, takes a good mark and the kicking, well that's how to kick a footy!

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        #12
                        Inawson

                        Out: Lloyd

                        As was duly noted in the game thread, Jake Lloyd landed not even 1 tackle last week. Zero! It's just not good enough. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jake tackle Chelsea Roffe a couple of times a game. Just show me something. Let him go back to ressies where most of his league leading metres gained stats will come from jumping the boundary fence to retrieve the ball some idiot kicked into the parking lot.

                        The simple problem is that Jake is just in possession of the ball way too much, and everyone knows it's pretty hard to tackle someone when your're holding the ball, unless you're tackling yourself, a feat only Tom Derickx was able to master.

                        He's got it too easy. Just picks up the ball from the box behind the goal posts, stands in the goal square, looks left, looks right, looks into the stands, looks at the scoreboard, looks at the bench, checks his twitter account, and finally, when the umpire has had just about enough, blows his whistle and Jake runs out of the goals square, kicks the ball 20 metres and the umpire calls play on. He's so predictable. I'd like to see Zak Jones doing the kick-ins. Hard for oppo coaches to plan for his antics.

                        Once Jake is out of the seniors, other players should see their disposal number go up, which will be a big confidence booster for the rest of the team and would probably lead us to a premiership this year if the AFL would only add a few more games to the schedule.


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                        • Mark26
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1535

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Inawson

                          Out: Lloyd

                          As was duly noted in the game thread, Jake Lloyd landed not even 1 tackle last week. Zero! It's just not good enough. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jake tackle Chelsea Roffe a couple of times a game. Just show me something. Let him go back to ressies where most of his league leading metres gained stats will come from jumping the boundary fence to retrieve the ball some idiot kicked into the parking lot.

                          The simple problem is that Jake is just in possession of the ball way too much, and everyone knows it's pretty hard to tackle someone when your're holding the ball, unless you're tackling yourself, a feat only Tom Derickx was able to master.

                          He's got it too easy. Just picks up the ball from the box behind the goal posts, stands in the goal square, looks left, looks right, looks into the stands, looks at the scoreboard, looks at the bench, checks his twitter account, and finally, when the umpire has had just about enough, blows his whistle and Jake runs out of the goals square, kicks the ball 20 metres and the umpire calls play on. He's so predictable. I'd like to see Zak Jones doing the kick-ins. Hard for oppo coaches to plan for his antics.

                          Once Jake is out of the seniors, other players should see their disposal number go up, which will be a big confidence booster for the rest of the team and would probably lead us to a premiership this year if the AFL would only add a few more games to the schedule.


                          Ludwig is back! You had me laughing several times. Can you imagine Zak having the responsibility of kicking the ball in? He'd probably size up his opposition, tuck that sherrin under his arm, take them on with a little shimmy and get tackled 10 metres out from the goal square. Maybe he'd mix it up with a failed fend off, or a 360 spin before biting the dust. Who knows? I don't think Zak does.

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2269

                            #14
                            Ludds, you are the Titus of REO, who I note is now appearing in grabs on TV.
                            Enjoyed this ‘take on Jake’.
                            I don’t think he’d be able to tackle Chelsea, like she’s far too nimble on her feet and would shimmy out of reach in a heartbeat .
                            What about the goal post ?

                            - - - Updated - - -

                            RWO

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                            • Swanny40519
                              Regular in the side.
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 469

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              Inawson

                              Out: Lloyd

                              As was duly noted in the game thread, Jake Lloyd landed not even 1 tackle last week. Zero! It's just not good enough. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jake tackle Chelsea Roffe a couple of times a game. Just show me something. Let him go back to ressies where most of his league leading metres gained stats will come from jumping the boundary fence to retrieve the ball some idiot kicked into the parking lot.

                              The simple problem is that Jake is just in possession of the ball way too much, and everyone knows it's pretty hard to tackle someone when your're holding the ball, unless you're tackling yourself, a feat only Tom Derickx was able to master.

                              He's got it too easy. Just picks up the ball from the box behind the goal posts, stands in the goal square, looks left, looks right, looks into the stands, looks at the scoreboard, looks at the bench, checks his twitter account, and finally, when the umpire has had just about enough, blows his whistle and Jake runs out of the goals square, kicks the ball 20 metres and the umpire calls play on. He's so predictable. I'd like to see Zak Jones doing the kick-ins. Hard for oppo coaches to plan for his antics.

                              Once Jake is out of the seniors, other players should see their disposal number go up, which will be a big confidence booster for the rest of the team and would probably lead us to a premiership this year if the AFL would only add a few more games to the schedule.


                              Great Post. I agree with what you say but I don't believe the MC have the "Sherrins" to do that. No tackles in many games is Mr Lloyd. McCartin deserves a rest and in the last couple of games has not set the world on fire.

                              In: Dawson
                              Out: McCartin

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