#AFL Finals week 2 weekly discussion thread

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Here is how toby's thing will play out.
    1. GWS will successfully appeal.
    2. GWS and Toby will receive death threats by the worked-to-a-frenzy Vic's
    3. GWS will refuse to play at the MCG due to player safety concerns.
    4. Match rescheduled to a neutral venue with no spectators (like soccer does). Spotless is free.

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    • Sandrevan
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2016
      • 355

      Originally posted by KTigers
      I think there is a bit of a "bunker mentality" out at GWS. It's understandable that they've developed this because of the sheer
      amount of criticism they've received from so many sections of the football world. Virtually all of them. It's been going on for about
      eight years now, and it would take a herculean effort to not be effected by it. And right now, all they can really do to respond
      to it, is to win. Going after Charlie Cameron, and Bontempelli, and Neale is an attempt to intimidate them, and stop them from
      playing well. They aren't the first team to do this stuff, and they won't be the last. It doesn't always work, but it often does and
      I think GWS are very desperate to win right now and will go to extraordinary lengths to do it. GWS are probably past caring
      whether the football world will like or respect them, and doing it for themselves and their families and small band of supporters.
      I think you've hit the nail on the head.

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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        Originally posted by barry
        You are many things bloods, but Numero Uno, you are a proud Victorian.
        No I'm not. States and nations are meaningless abstractions to me. My tribe, however, is as real to me as viscera and blood. The Swans are my tribe.

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        • Bloods05
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2008
          • 1641

          Originally posted by KTigers
          That is a massive call Barry. Just massive.

          We've all said some pretty silly stuff over the years.

          This is the internet, after all.
          For example, Barry said it was only Victorians who booed Adam Goodes.

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          • Bloods05
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2008
            • 1641

            Originally posted by barry
            4. Match rescheduled to a neutral venue with no spectators (like soccer does). Spotless is free.
            Neutral?

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              When you slow it down, grubbygreene looks like he "tried" to rub the other bloke's eyes out.
              When looked at from another angle, he arrived late, and deliberately put his hand into the other player's face.
              F-ing little grub.
              Suspension should stand.

              Watch the frame-by-frame vision that could hurt Toby's case - AFL.com.au
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                Originally posted by Bloods05
                Neutral?
                MCG is 'Neutral' for a grand final apparently.
                I suggest Spotless as it probably the easiest/cheapest to arrange at short notice, and probably fairest to reduced Toby's (the real victim here) travel schedule.

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  Originally posted by barry
                  MCG is 'Neutral' for a grand final apparently.
                  I suggest Spotless as it probably the easiest/cheapest to arrange at short notice, and probably fairest to reduced Toby's (the real victim here) travel schedule.
                  Yeah no.
                  What about the other 73,000 who normally attend the granny? Where are they going to sit?
                  "Real victim" my hairy butt!!!
                  Seriously, you need to have your medication looked at.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • Bloods05
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1641

                    Originally posted by barry
                    MCG is 'Neutral' for a grand final apparently.
                    I suggest Spotless as it probably the easiest/cheapest to arrange at short notice, and probably fairest to reduced Toby's (the real victim here) travel schedule.
                    Fairness matters a lot to you, doesn't it Barry?

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Originally posted by AnnieH
                      Yeah no.
                      What about the other 73,000 who normally attend the granny? Where are they going to sit?
                      "Real victim" my hairy butt!!!
                      Seriously, you need to have your medication looked at.
                      No, No, AnnieH you dont get it. It will be an empty stadium (see below) because the AFL lynch-mob want to kill toby.

                      Quite common on the continent.

                      The 90,000 who miss out can lay the blame squarely at the media and AFL house.

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        Originally posted by barry
                        No, No, AnnieH you dont get it. It will be an empty stadium (see below) because the AFL lynch-mob want to kill toby.

                        Quite common on the continent.

                        The 90,000 who miss out can lay the blame squarely at the media and AFL house.

                        Yes, they've done this a few times in Italy to penalise fans who were constantly racially abusing players hailing from Africa.
                        If the AFL had any balls (which of course they don't) they should have done this in 2015. It's a stretch to think the treatment
                        of young Tobes' warrants it though.

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          Originally posted by Bloods05
                          Fairness matters a lot to you, doesn't it Barry?
                          You Vic's shy away from a bit of reverse 'fairness' quite quickly.

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                          • Bloods05
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1641

                            Originally posted by barry
                            You Vic's shy away from a bit of reverse 'fairness' quite quickly.
                            What's reverse fairness?

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Lets change tack a little and get rid of all this moralising

                              What do you think the odds (rightly or wrongly) of the two suspensions being overturned. ?

                              I would say:
                              Hawkins is a 40% chance of playing Friday night.
                              Greene is a 90% chance of playing Saturday.

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                I would think if the Tomahawk gets off, then Tobes' chances of getting off will rise to 99%. And then the internet will crash
                                because of all the venting....

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