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  • O'Reilly Boy
    Warming the Bench
    • Feb 2014
    • 474

    So, I'd quite like to see:

    Backs Rampe Aliir** Mellican Lloyd Dawson** O'Riordan Gould or Brand as a roughie?

    Mids Naismith* Kennedy* Parker* Hewitt* Rowbottom Florent Heeney* Blakey* Mills Cunningham

    Forwards Franklin Reid** McCartin** Papley*Hayward

    * rotating through forwards/mid
    ** swings

    Buddy not available, so perhaps Sinclair gets a run.

    Pressing for selection: Gray, Clarke, Stephens
    Next tier: Fox, Bell, McIntyre, Ling, Stoddard

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5835

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      So, Parker, JPK and Hewett each spend 2/3 of the game on the bench? Are you for serious?
      No. They would rotate between the forwardline, mids and bench. Giving each rotation plenty of rest so they are refreshed for their mid time. I think the key to winning the mids is having fresh bodies in there. You take Bullies, Tigers, Eagles, Pies and Cats. All have plenty of rotations and they use them

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5835

        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        Fox have published a best 22. Compared to mine they have Lewis Taylor ahead of Sam Gray and COR ahead of Brand (which leaves us a tad undersized down back, I reckon, depending on the opposition). They haven't found a place for Gould at this stage.

        SYDNEY SWANS
        B: Jordan Dawson, Dane Rampe, Jake Lloyd
        HB: Ollie Florent, Aliir Aliir, Callum Mills
        C: Isaac Heeney, Josh Kennedy, Nick Blakey
        HF: Lewis Taylor, Sam Reid, Tom Papley
        F: Will Hayward, Callum Sinclair, Tom McCartin
        FOLL: Sam Naismith, George Hewett, Luke Parker
        I/C: Harry Cunningham, Dylan Stephens, Colin O’Riordan, James Rowbottom
        EMER: Sam Gray, Lewis Melican, Will Gould, Ben Ronke

        AFL 2020: Round 1 best 22s for every club, debuts, injury updates, draftees to play straight away, SuperCoach news | Fox Sports
        It is the most inconceived 22 I have ever seen. The guy is an idiot. Ollie playimg HBF for @@@@'s sake.

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          Originally posted by stevoswan
          Where do you get two thirds of the game from? Maybe I should have added "or in the forward line".....but they do deserve a rest at some point. Obviously they will all be in the middle together at times or just two of them in the middle with one resting on the bench or in the forward line or one out there in the middle with one resting on the bench and one in the forward line (or both on the bench). Many players can rotate through the middle, forward line and the bench during a game.....but they all need a rest at some point, either on the bench (proper rest) or in the forward line (partial rest). We need to mix it up a bit and the coaches will just have to work out a way to achieve it.....because it can't just fall on those three all the time and we don't want it to, because they just won't cut it.
          Isn't this what happens already?
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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            Originally posted by wolftone57
            It is the most inconceived 22 I have ever seen. The guy is an idiot. Ollie playimg HBF for @@@@'s sake.

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            I agree that we don't need Florent playing as a half flanker but I think it's more about the 22 named than where they're named because the convention of tying names to field positions hasn't kept up with the modem reality. You, especially, seem to grasp this when you are proposing rotating mini-teams through the midfield that have to go elsewhere when they it's not their turn.
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            • Snork
              On the Rookie List
              • Jul 2014
              • 45

              I actually think it will be a massive year for Sam Reid, I know this is said every year and I actually love him as a bloke and a player but he has real competition now, McCartin really stepped up, up forward late last year and I can't see the need for paying three talls up there. He must also be secretly hoping Lizard plays up the ground too.

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              • MightyBloods
                Regular in the Side
                • Feb 2012
                • 532

                Best 22

                ok, I'll give it a go:

                B Rampe Reid Lloyd
                HB Cunningham Aliir Dawson
                C Florent Mills Blakey
                HF Parker McCartin Hayward
                F Papley Franklin Heeney

                Foll Naismith, Kennedy, Hewitt

                Res: Sinclair, Stephens, Taylor, Rowbottom

                Breakout players: Stephens, Rowbottom, Ling.

                Time to let Mills be more creative.
                Reid to the backline to give us height, class and experience, also allos McCartin to develop up forward.
                Play Franklin deep, scares the opposition and will prolong his career.

                Bottom line, I'm excited about the young talent coming through.

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  This article I've posted in the pre-season thread suggests picking the forward line for round 1 is going to be tough: Injured Buddy still mentoring AFL's Swans.
                  All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                  • KSAS
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1768

                    Thought I'd have a stab at it after what I witnessed last Saturday & assuming full list availibity. Is subject to change of course!

                    B: Lloyd Rampe Brand
                    HB: Dawson Allir Mills
                    C: Rowbottom Kennedy Blakey
                    HF: Parker Buddy Hayward
                    F: Gray Reid Papley

                    Foll: Naismith. Heeney. Florent

                    Int: Hewitt, O'Riordan, Cunningham, McCartin

                    Gould & Stephens are not walk up starts and need to prove themselves first in the NEAFL

                    Sinclair and Taylor to come into R1 team for Buddy and Reid who both seem unlikely to be ready.
                    Last edited by KSAS; 3 March 2020, 11:23 AM.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8492

                      Originally posted by KSAS
                      Thought I'd have a stab at it after what I witnessed last Saturday & assuming full list availibity. Is subject to change of course!

                      B: Lloyd Rampe Brand
                      HB: Dawson Allir Mills
                      C: Rowbottom Kennedy Blakey
                      HF: Parker Buddy Hayward
                      F: Gray Reid Papley

                      Foll: Naismith. Heeney. Florent

                      Int: Hewitt, O'Riordan, Cunningham, McCartin

                      Gould & Stephens are not walk up starts and need to prove themselves first in the NEAFL

                      Sinclair and Taylor to come into R1 team for Buddy and Reid who both seem unlikely to be ready.
                      Seems about right. On paper it's a very competitive side. So I'm hoping that the fact that we didn't compete on the weekend, is just an aberration, rather than a symptom of deeper problems.

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                      • bloodspirit
                        Clubman
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 4448

                        Originally posted by KSAS
                        Thought I'd have a stab at it after what I witnessed last Saturday & assuming full list availibity. Is subject to change of course!

                        B: Lloyd Rampe Brand
                        HB: Dawson Allir Mills
                        C: Rowbottom Kennedy Blakey
                        HF: Parker Buddy Hayward
                        F: Gray Reid Papley

                        Foll: Naismith. Heeney. Florent

                        Int: Hewitt, O'Riordan, Cunningham, McCartin

                        Gould & Stephens are not walk up starts and need to prove themselves first in the NEAFL

                        Sinclair and Taylor to come into R1 team for Buddy and Reid who both seem unlikely to be ready.
                        Seems about right for me too, possibly the same as the one I posted a little while back, except that I had Stephens ahead of COR, which is a very tough call to make. I also agree with your R1 substitutions.
                        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                        • Molly dooker
                          Lifer!
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 247

                          Originally posted by KSAS
                          Thought I'd have a stab at it after what I witnessed last Saturday & assuming full list availibity. Is subject to change of course!

                          B: Lloyd Rampe Brand
                          HB: Dawson Allir Mills
                          C: Rowbottom Kennedy Blakey
                          HF: Parker Buddy Hayward
                          F: Gray Reid Papley

                          Foll: Naismith. Heeney. Florent

                          Int: Hewitt, O'Riordan, Cunningham, McCartin

                          Gould & Stephens are not walk up starts and need to prove themselves first in the NEAFL

                          Sinclair and Taylor to come into R1 team for Buddy and Reid who both seem unlikely to be ready.
                          Yep +1

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            Originally posted by Captain
                            Now the trade period has finished, and with a pretty healthy list (all players meant to be training before Christmas), I thought it would be an interesting experiment to see how our best 22 is looking for next year.

                            I have Naismith coming back in as #1 ruck, Cunningham to take over the small defender role that Nick Smith did so well for so long and have tried to mix our midfield up a little.

                            McCartin Franklin Hayward
                            Papley Reid Parker
                            Blakey Heeney Florent
                            Lloyd Aliir Dawson
                            O'Riordan Rampe Cunningham
                            Naismith Mills Kennedy
                            Hewett Rowbottom Gray Taylor
                            Emergencies: Fox, Brand/Melican (to come in against taller forward lines for O'Riordan), Sinclair, Ronke

                            Pretty young and raw side but still one that I think is competitive. The rucks are our biggest weakness and the midfield the most intriguing. Will players like Heeney, Mills, Florent and Blakey step up to become absolute stars and win games off their own boot or are they still a few more years away?
                            I'm still happy with this starting 22 from 4 months ago.

                            Gould and Stephens will be good but can't find a place for them in the 22 (yet).

                            Hewett, Rowbottom, Gray and Taylor would all need to perform early to keep their spots as the young draftees are coming.

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                            • Ralph Dawg
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1729

                              Most contributors are sticking with our players who have been playing AFL over 2019. The coaches will be doing the same for R1.

                              If it becomes clear that there is not much improvement left in them, then we need to start playing our youngsters in the hope they can lead us back up the ladder. I just don't feel guys like Ling, Stoddart, McInerney, Foote, Gould, Stephens, Warner etc are going to improve as rapidly in the NEAFL as they would playing AFL.

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11328

                                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                                Most contributors are sticking with our players who have been playing AFL over 2019. The coaches will be doing the same for R1.

                                If it becomes clear that there is not much improvement left in them, then we need to start playing our youngsters in the hope they can lead us back up the ladder. I just don't feel guys like Ling, Stoddart, McInerney, Foote, Gould, Stephens, Warner etc are going to improve as rapidly in the NEAFL as they would playing AFL.
                                Bit rough on the newbies Dawg. You cant expect them to just slot in and play like champions. Big difference between SANL and the big time. McInerney might be a good player with good players around him.
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