Best 22 for 2020

[Ralph Dawg]

AFL.com.au has had a crack at our best 22. I don’t know why they insist on seeing Blakey as a key position player rather than a tall wingman / half forward? They’ve swung Reid back to accommodate Blakey.

They’ve got Sinkers rucking and none of our draftees in the side. But Taylor and Gray are in.

Who's in, who's unlucky? Your club's best 22 for round one

I essentially agree with this team. I would be happy to try Reid down back but suspect he will start forward. Agree with you Webbos that Blakey plays on a wing / high HF.

Naismith is a unicorn - this mythical creature that will apparently solve all our issues around stoppages. As I have mentioned ad nauseum cast your minds back to his last full season. Look at the stats - his hit out count is on par with Sinclair. He was working with a superior midfield (Mitchell, JPK, Hanners, Jack, Parker ). Watch the games where McEvoy and Zac Smith towelled him up. And that was before he stuffed his knee. He will not fix a thing and will also get soundly beaten around the park. Sinclair is an honest workman and will compete around the park. Until we find a better ruckman than these two, Sinclair is the better option. Happy to be proven wrong as always - it would be fantastic if he was to become a first rate ruck in his second coming but I have my reservations..........

[Ralph Dawg]

I prefer Sinclair too. Here is a comparison between Sinclair of 2018 and Naismith of 2017 when playing as our number 1 ruck:
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...2=P&fopt2=2017

See above link to stats. My final word on this. Promise not to raise it again ????

[Auntie.Gerald]

The 106kg half-back likened to Hurn | Will Gould | Draft Class of 2019 | AFL - YouTube

gould has stated in just about every interview he wants to be playing in snrs next year

i dont think i have ever heard a young fella drafted as keen as that except for Warner funny enough

There appears to be a bit of grit to Gould and Warner and they appear to have that passion to contribute

his kicking is on display below for Glenelg and there are some monster long kick outs.........starting to warm to Gould on the right side and Dawson on the left causing havoc with their accurate long kicks off HBF looking for Bud up front on the run in space

Round 1 RAA Rookie - Will Gould (Glenelg) - Lucindale FC - YouTube

check out the goal end of the video below with stephens and gould and edwards combining..........nice effort, anticipation and finish gouldie

Glenelg's Will Gould - Torrens Uni SA U18 v Vic Country - YouTube

[Auntie.Gerald]

makes you wonder if Warner may get a chance like Rowbottom did first year ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-OlovHyf8 gould got 20.3 for a big unit fair effort in the yo yo test

Agility (seconds)
Hayden Young 7.940 seconds
Elijah Taylor 8.005
Thomson Dow 8.061
Trent Rivers 8.100
Oisin Gallen 8.197
Chad Warner 8.203
Sam Flanders 8.206
Noah Cumberland 8.208
Connor Budarick 8.242
Dylan Stephens 8.245

Yo-Yo test (level)
Jay Rantall 21.8 level
Cooper Stephens 21.8
Connor Budarick 21.6
Chad Warner 21.6
Oscar Lewis 21.5
Sam Philp 21.5
Lachlan Ash 21.4
Harrison Jones 21.4
Finn Maginness 21.4
Trey Ruscoe 21.4
Riley Baldi 21.3
Sam Flanders 21.3
Matt Rowell 21.3
Jeremy Sharp 21.3

2km time trial results (min:sec)
Jay Rantall 5:50 minutes
Finn Maginness 5:51
Dylan Stephens 6:01
Louis Butler 6:09
Hugo Ralphsmith 6:12
Jeremy Sharp 6:12
Connor Budarick 6:15
Jai Jackson 6:15
Will Martyn 6:16
Ned Cahill 6:17
Matt Rowell 6:17
Noah Anderson 6:17
Cooper Stephens 6:17
Cian McBride 6:17

Running vertical jump (cm)
Brady Rowles 98cm
Miles Bergman 90
Sam Flanders 88
Cian McBride 87
Lachlan Williams 86
Hugo Ralphsmith 86
Jaxon Prior 85
Nick Bryan 85
Oscar Lewis 83
Kysaiah Pickett 83
Cody Weightman 83
Will Day 83
Brady Rowles 83
Cooper Stephens 83
Harrison Jones 83

Vertical jump (cm)
Miles Bergman 77cm
Brady Rowles 73
Ben Johnson 70
Daniel Mott 70
Cody Weightman 69
Sam Flanders 69
Lachlan Williams 69
Sam Philp 69
Nick Bryan 69

20m sprint (seconds)
Sam Philp 2.867 seconds
Ben Johnson 2.885
Malcolm Rosas 2.924
Mitch Georgiades 2.925
Noah Cumberland 2.931
Finn Maginness 2.957
Harrison Jones 2.963
Jeremy Sharp 2.966
Brady Rowles 2.968
Dylan Stephens 2.972

[MattW]

makes you wonder if Warner may get a chance like Rowbottom did first year ?

Glenelg’s Will Gould (64) & North’s Dyson Hilder (65) & Karl Finlay (63) - Yo Yo Test AFL Combine - YouTube gould got 20.3 for a big unit fair effort in the yo yo test

Agility (seconds)
Hayden Young 7.940 seconds
Elijah Taylor 8.005
Thomson Dow 8.061
Trent Rivers 8.100
Oisin Gallen 8.197
Chad Warner 8.203
Sam Flanders 8.206
Noah Cumberland 8.208
Connor Budarick 8.242
Dylan Stephens 8.245

Yo-Yo test (level)
Jay Rantall 21.8 level
Cooper Stephens 21.8
Connor Budarick 21.6
Chad Warner 21.6
Oscar Lewis 21.5
Sam Philp 21.5
Lachlan Ash 21.4
Harrison Jones 21.4
Finn Maginness 21.4
Trey Ruscoe 21.4
Riley Baldi 21.3
Sam Flanders 21.3
Matt Rowell 21.3
Jeremy Sharp 21.3

2km time trial results (min:sec)
Jay Rantall 5:50 minutes
Finn Maginness 5:51
Dylan Stephens 6:01
Louis Butler 6:09
Hugo Ralphsmith 6:12
Jeremy Sharp 6:12
Connor Budarick 6:15
Jai Jackson 6:15
Will Martyn 6:16
Ned Cahill 6:17
Matt Rowell 6:17
Noah Anderson 6:17
Cooper Stephens 6:17
Cian McBride 6:17

Running vertical jump (cm)
Brady Rowles 98cm
Miles Bergman 90
Sam Flanders 88
Cian McBride 87
Lachlan Williams 86
Hugo Ralphsmith 86
Jaxon Prior 85
Nick Bryan 85
Oscar Lewis 83
Kysaiah Pickett 83
Cody Weightman 83
Will Day 83
Brady Rowles 83
Cooper Stephens 83
Harrison Jones 83

Vertical jump (cm)
Miles Bergman 77cm
Brady Rowles 73
Ben Johnson 70
Daniel Mott 70
Cody Weightman 69
Sam Flanders 69
Lachlan Williams 69
Sam Philp 69
Nick Bryan 69

20m sprint (seconds)
Sam Philp 2.867 seconds
Ben Johnson 2.885
Malcolm Rosas 2.924
Mitch Georgiades 2.925
Noah Cumberland 2.931
Finn Maginness 2.957
Harrison Jones 2.963
Jeremy Sharp 2.966
Brady Rowles 2.968
Dylan Stephens 2.972

Rowles certainly has an impressive athletic base.

[707]

Injuries and pre season form aside, perusal of the list has me thinking we have a fairly clear best 20/22, these are the guys I think are locks based on 2019 form

Buddy
LLoyd
Heeney
Parker
Aliir
Papley
Florent
Kennedy
Mills
Rampe
Reid
Hayward
McCartin
Blakey
Hewett
Dawson
Rowbottom
Cunningham
Sam Gray
Lewis Taylor if he gets fit
That's 20, plus we need at least one ruck (Sinclair/Naismith), plus another KPD (Melican/Brand) =22

COR I really rate and see him best 22 at some stage this year, Thurlow & Clarke are just depth from what we saw in 2019.

Be interesting to see how the new draftees go, wouldn't be surprised to see Stephens and/or Gould make a big impression on selectors in pre season games.

[goswannies]

Paps & Heeney removed from the leadership group

[stevoswan]

Paps & Heeney removed from the leadership group

It's player voted....so Paps out was a no brainer. Heeney on the other hand....that is a little hmmm.

[707]

It's player voted....so Paps out was a no brainer. Heeney on the other hand....that is a little hmmm.

Club decided to reduce the leadership group from 8 to just five so there was going to be casualties even with the retirees moving out.

It's the three co-captains, Buddy and Mills were top of the voting obviously although we won't ever know if anyone ruled themselves out.

[Mountain Man]

Just for interest I put the date of birth for the "Best 22" from a recent post.


Buddy 1987 30-Jan
Kennedy 1988 20-Jun
Rampe 1990 2-Jun
Reid 1991 27-Dec
Parker 1992 25-Oct
Sam Gray 1992 1-Feb
LLoyd 1993 20-Sep
Cunningham 1993 6-Dec
Aliir 1994 15-Sep
Hewett 1995 29-Dec
Heeney 1996 9-Apr
Papley 1996 13-Jul
Mills 1997 2-Apr
Dawson 1997 9-Apr
Florent 1998 22-Jul
Hayward 1998 26-Oct
McCartin 1999 30-Dec
Blakey 2000 27-Feb
Rowbottom 2000 19-Sep

Lewis Taylor if he gets fit 1995 17-Feb

plus we need at least one ruck
(Sinclair 1989 23-Sep
/Naismith), 1992 16-Jul

plus another KPD
(Melican 1996 4-Nov
/Brand) =22 1994 8-Apr

COR I really rate and see him best 22 at some stage this year, 1995 12-Oct

[Auntie.Gerald]

i went back and watched the richmond swans game 2019 at the MCG

quiet day today with family all overseas or away or working

funny enough it was a relaxing read a book, exercise, eat some seafood/salad and watch some footy...... perfect kind a day

so first qtr was tight against the tigers

2nd qtr Jones made 3 turnovers in 5mins which lead to 3 turnovers and 3 forward 50 entries by richmond and as richmond do x 2 goals

we lost by 3 goals

i wanted to watch closely how Richmond pressure, set up defensively, create turnovers, counter attack, then flood in numbers forward.........their main difference for me is their ability to flood forward in numbers via handballs once they cause the turnover..........they dont pull the trigger on the kick to early......they are patient for the right option but keep it alive via handballs so they dont have to mark and stop

we held our own for good parts of the game......but the patch where Jones made 3 turnovers in a row in the 2nd qtr gave richmond the fuel to keep pressuring in numbers and not back off

.........

i suspect we will see better forward entries with the likes of Taylor, Gray and maybe Stephens in 2020

[dimelb]

Interesting thoughts there AG.

Jonesy was a bit of a teaser, varying between hard nut goal kicker and klutzish runner who either thought he could outrun the opposition or didn't get a "hot" call from his mates - or perhaps did, but didn't hear it or perhaps believe it.

In the end I don't regret losing him after seeing what some of our youngsters are producing.

[Aprilbr]

I'm predicting that Jones will have a good season for the Saints. He was pretty good for us last season when fit. He is now coming into his prime. Sadly, we did not get much in return for him. Problem when they're coming out of contract.

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[Auntie.Gerald]

ps noticed nannygate is the third best clearance player at the tigers and as mentioned before, the tiges are well down the list on clearances

it is almost like the way the tigers play nanny in the initial ruck...... is to re-set the clearance away from the original contest by him following up so quickly while the other ruckman is getting to his feet

A little like how AA did for us......chasing after his own hit out or spoil.

nanny aint that quick..... but he is there before the other ruckman to create a tackle or a clearance........it almost appears pre meditated to negate the dominance of a bigger taller better tap ruckman

simple but seriously effective

[bloodspirit]

I'm going to have a go:

Lloyd Rampe Brand
Dawson Aliir Mills

Naismith JPK Parker
Florent Hewett Blakey

Papley Reid Heeney
Hayward Buddy McCartin

Rowbottom, Harry C, Stephens, Gray

If Buddy is not available, consider Sinclair/Squizzy/COR depending on match ups (if COR, then I guess Dawson or Lloyd gets pushed upfield so COR can play back).

That is not a bad team. The midfield is not A grade but could become so - is a good mix of youth and experience and also of ballwinners (JPK, Parker, Hewett) with outside speed. And apart from those lining up in the middle, players like Papley, Gray, Rowbottom, Stephens, Heeney, Dawson and Squizzy (if selected) able to rotate through as well. The forward line is excellent, especially if Buddy is playing. If he isn't, we have taller and shorter options depending on match ups. The backline has lost a lot of experience but is well drilled enough to cope adequately. It might be a smidge on the shorter side but with Reid and McCartin able to swing back that should not be too much of an issue.

The amount of depth waiting in the wings (much of it raw and untested or not ready yet) is so exciting. Selection will be tough and that's a great problem to have.