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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4195

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    I know Buddy will surely want to play, and there would be benefits to him playing. I have mixed feeling about it, but I'm looking at the side of the ledger that has Buddy playing round 1 next year in absolute tip tops shape. For me, that tips the scale toward being extra cautious about playing him this year.
    Buddy finished last year fit and his two injuries since have been suffered while training (if you count taking off a boot as 'training'). He'd want to play and I think it'd be good for him to play - otherwise it'd be 18 months without a game.

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    • KTigers
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2012
      • 2499

      Originally posted by MattW
      Buddy finished last year fit and his two injuries since have been suffered while training (if you count taking off a boot as 'training'). He'd want to play and I think it'd be good for him to play - otherwise it'd be 18 months without a game.
      I can't believe the club has not hired a dresser for Buddy. He is footy royalty after all. If they had treated him with the respect he
      deserves surely this injury would never have occurred.

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      • Mel_C
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4470

        Originally posted by barry
        Surely they should all relocate to WA. Its the most isolated and virus-free state we have. Queensland will follow NSW who are about to follow Victoria into lockdown.
        Does WA have another ground apart from Optus Stadium? I don't think Subiaco is still available.

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          Sounds as if there may be a cutback in the number of spectators allowed in to the SCG this weekend.

          ‘The Swans were on Wednesday night working through how they can accommodate fans for their game against Gold Coast on Saturday, after a day in which NSW recorded 13 new coronavirus cases and the cluster linked to the Crossroads Hotel in Casula grew to 34.’

          ‘About 10,000 fans can attend the SCG in accordance with state government regulations, which allow for stadiums to open to 25 per cent capacity. This number, however, could be reduced in order to increase social distancing as part of a wide range of safety measures being considered by the Swans.’

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by Mel_C
            Does WA have another ground apart from Optus Stadium? I don't think Subiaco is still available.
            The WACA is available. Not sure about others.

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4195

              Next batch of games: St Kilda @ Gabba (early Sat eve), Collingwood @ Gabba (early Thur eve), GWS @ Perth Stadium (Thur night).

              Footy every day: Dogs-Tigers clash kicks off fixture frenzy

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2049

                Sydney Swans face masks available for pre-order at the Swans Shop.

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                • snajik
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1115

                  I've picked some tickets for tomorrow's game hopefully face masks are also available at the merch stand.

                  100% chance of rain and the tix are 3 rows from the fence and we aren't permitted to move beyond our row. No tix were being sold in the Noble where we usually sit. Not quite sure why. I shouldn't complain. There are no doubt folks who'd love to go regardless of the conditions, but can't. I guess I'll take my canoe.
                  It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                  The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8494

                    Originally posted by snajik
                    I've picked some tickets for tomorrow's game hopefully face masks are also available at the merch stand.

                    100% chance of rain and the tix are 3 rows from the fence and we aren't permitted to move beyond our row. No tix were being sold in the Noble where we usually sit. Not quite sure why. I shouldn't complain. There are no doubt folks who'd love to go regardless of the conditions, but can't. I guess I'll take my canoe.
                    Hopefully the Hawks will persist with a side that's a fair bit more top heavy than ours.

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4195

                      Originally posted by snajik
                      I've picked some tickets for tomorrow's game hopefully face masks are also available at the merch stand.

                      100% chance of rain and the tix are 3 rows from the fence and we aren't permitted to move beyond our row. No tix were being sold in the Noble where we usually sit. Not quite sure why. I shouldn't complain. There are no doubt folks who'd love to go regardless of the conditions, but can't. I guess I'll take my canoe.
                      The BOM app suggests the chance of rain is increasing during the day and doesn't hit 50% until the evening, so with any luck you'll miss most of it. 4-8mm forecast tomorrow; 40-70mm on Sunday!

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        Although the Melbourne media scoffed at the time, it looks like the NRL got a much better media deal. While AFL is slashing the salary cap, the NRL's cap is staying the same and they are signing big names like Sonny Bill.

                        Gill needs a please explain.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8149

                          Originally posted by barry
                          Although the Melbourne media scoffed at the time, it looks like the NRL got a much better media deal. While AFL is slashing the salary cap, the NRL's cap is staying the same and they are signing big names like Sonny Bill.

                          Gill needs a please explain.
                          Good job at telling half the story Barry

                          The reason they are able to sign Sonny Bill is the not insignificant fact that the team paying him a massive fortune is based in Canada, and in the current world, there is no way they can actually play any games given they are part of the English rugby league competition. So all their players are therefore available, and what their 'true market worth' is by and large irrelevant, because they are only available on short term contracts.

                          He's also 35 and well past his best, and hardly commanding top dollar. The only thing that makes it even remotely of interest is somehow the team with the ever-elastic salary cap in the NRL the roosters are going to fit him in their cap somehow, despite being dual defending champions...

                          That whole situation has zero to do with the media deal, and all to do with the fact the guy would otherwise be earning zero and therefore is going relatively cheap.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by mcs
                            Good job at telling half the story Barry

                            The reason they are able to sign Sonny Bill is the not insignificant fact that the team paying him a massive fortune is based in Canada, and in the current world, there is no way they can actually play any games given they are part of the English rugby league competition. So all their players are therefore available, and what their 'true market worth' is by and large irrelevant, because they are only available on short term contracts.

                            He's also 35 and well past his best, and hardly commanding top dollar. The only thing that makes it even remotely of interest is somehow the team with the ever-elastic salary cap in the NRL the roosters are going to fit him in their cap somehow, despite being dual defending champions...

                            That whole situation has zero to do with the media deal, and all to do with the fact the guy would otherwise be earning zero and therefore is going relatively cheap.
                            The relevance is that the NRL are in a position to attract new talent in (Sonny Bill) with lucrative contracts, and move players around (Fifita from Brisbane to Titans) on big contracts with the same salary cap in place as pre-covid.
                            Same salary cap, loosely means same major revenue streams. We know two revenue streams are down (crowds, and sponsors), so other revenue (broadcast rights) must be same or up.

                            This is logical conclusions based on actions, not words from the media.

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                            • KTigers
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2499

                              It always seems to me that most rugby league player contracts are more of a "guideline" than a "core promise" ie not worth much more
                              than the paper they are written on. If Buddy had been a league player and signed a nine year contract at the end of 2013 with say
                              Canterbury, he'd be onto his fifth club by now. I couldn't care less one way or the other but for big, tough macho men, league
                              players sure have a lot of hissy fits. Some of the coaches aren't much better. Give it a few more years and it'll be easier to count the clubs
                              Wayne Bennett hasn't coached than the ones he has. I'm just not sure you can equate player movement as being a sign a sport is
                              dynamic and going places. As for SBW, I reckon if members of RWO were to crowd fund a new sport that's a hybrid of league, union,
                              Australian Rules and boxing that's only ever going to be played in the Fox Studios carpark, Sonny Bill would sign up for it in a heartbeat.
                              Last edited by KTigers; 27 July 2020, 03:10 PM.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by KTigers
                                It always seems to me that most rugby league player contracts are more of a "guideline" than a "core promise" ie not worth much more
                                than the paper they are written on. If Buddy had been a league player and signed a nine year contract at the end of 2013 with say
                                Canterbury, he'd be onto his fifth club by now. I couldn't care less one way or the other but for big, tough macho men, league
                                players sure have a lot of hissy fits. Some of the coaches aren't much better. Give it a few more years and it'll be easier to count the clubs
                                Wayne Bennett hasn't coached than the ones he has.
                                Its an interesting comparison, because NRL have a cap but no draft, whereas AFL has a cap and draft.
                                I think you see a lot more club movement up and down the ladder in NRL, because a few big player movements make good teams bad, and bad teams good.
                                Look at Canberra, hopeless a couple of years ago, top team now.
                                AFL's draft prolongs teams at the bottom and top longer.

                                I'm just not sure you can equate player movement as being a sign a sport is
                                dynamic and going places. As for SBW, I reckon if members of RWO were to crowd fund a new sport that's a hybrid of league, union,
                                Australian Rules and boxing that's only ever going to be played in the Fox Studios carpark, Sonny Bill would sign up for it in a heartbeat.
                                No doubt.... if the money was good.

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