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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    Originally posted by goswannies
    Surely the opposition have someone watching the Swans bench? That’s one way they can tell if there’s an interchange error. And if that guy saw the Swans Doc go to Naismith, surely it’s not inconceivable that they would alert their own frizzy headed doc who could very easily see that our Doc was performing a Lachman’s test (that’s the only one they televised but I expect for due diligence they would have done an anterior draw and a pivot shift), but from the Lachman’s alone it’s a dead giveaway that they suspect a knee. Body language might give away any suspicions.
    The Dogs medico is Gary Zimmerman a well known noted orthopedic surgeon. He is retained by Racing Victoria as the chief medical advisor and treatment coordinator to injured jockeys. Absolutely top bloke, so he would have known and had great empathy towards Sam.

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    Originally posted by MattW
    Yes. I'm sure the club will get around him.
    There is a horse in WA called Boys Getaroundhim.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • TheBloods
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Feb 2020
      • 2047

      Their young players were better than ours. English, Smith, Lipinski, Dale, Williams, West. Even their debutant Butler. All had starring roles in a big win that resurrects the Dogs season.

      Rowbottom aside, did ours miss the bus to the match? Florent was nowhere to be seen, looked out of his league against a midfield of premiership stars. Taken forward steps this year but this game was a gigantic backwards step.

      What are Hayward, McLean, Blakey, McInerney, RONKE offering us? Nothing. Just meaningless possessions here and there and living off promise rather than delivering.

      Mills and Hewett offer nothing by way of attack. It's reassuring to know they can negate their opponents but they're pretty unhelpful if they can't even get 20-25 touches. Heeney is only as good as the team is we are finding out.

      Papley is the only player who can walk away from a disgraceful performance with his head held high. My heart broke for our warrior captain. Even more so knowing his team had let him down after 250 games of giving his all for them.

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4220

        Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
        10/10
        Actually, 11/11
        Yeah, looks good.

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        • Mel_C
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4470

          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll

          Does anyone else remember his actions on the ground after the 2012 granny? I hope he eventually got around to congratulating Joey
          His grandfather definitely congratulated him on the ground. They showed some footage last night.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by Nico
            We play better in the afternoon.
            Interesting observation

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4050

              Originally posted by TheBloods
              Their young players were better than ours. English, Smith, Lipinski, Dale, Williams, West. Even their debutant Butler. All had starring roles in a big win that resurrects the Dogs season.

              Rowbottom aside, did ours miss the bus to the match? Florent was nowhere to be seen, looked out of his league against a midfield of premiership stars. Taken forward steps this year but this game was a gigantic backwards step.

              What are Hayward, McLean, Blakey, McInerney, RONKE offering us? Nothing. Just meaningless possessions here and there and living off promise rather than delivering.

              Mills and Hewett offer nothing by way of attack. It's reassuring to know they can negate their opponents but they're pretty unhelpful if they can't even get 20-25 touches. Heeney is only as good as the team is we are finding out.

              Papley is the only player who can walk away from a disgraceful performance with his head held high. My heart broke for our warrior captain. Even more so knowing his team had let him down after 250 games of giving his all for them.
              We've had one bad game
              for the year. Some changes needed but also some perspective

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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                Sam Naismith:

                ‘The 27-year-old, who will consult a surgeon next week, is facing a second traditional knee reconstruction. The LARS method is not being considered.’

                'Terrible run': Injury a blow for Naismith The Swans' worst fears for Naismith were realised when scans confirmed the ruckman had torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Naismith is listed as being a RFA when his contract ends in 2021, which means he must be on a pretty good salary. I think if he retires due to injury, he gets compensation through the AFLPA, but I don't know the details. With AFL clubs facing reduced TPP in the coming years, the club needs to face Sam's playing future dispassionately. I don't think it's cruel in being realistic in saying that Sam is physically not up the rigours of football.

                  Of course, the club should do whatever they can, financially and medically, to get him through his recovery. But we shouldn't put him through another training regime, but rather allow him to get on with the next phase of his life.

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    We've had one bad game
                    for the year. Some changes needed but also some perspective
                    I agree. We're a young side and consistency is not quite there. Wholesale team changes and sacking the coach would be all well and good if there were other viable options. 2020 in a lot of ways is a write off at so many levels. I think we should just view it as a development year to get some games into guys we view as our future.

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                    • Ruck'n'Roll
                      Ego alta, ergo ictus
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3990

                      Originally posted by Mel_C
                      His grandfather definitely congratulated him on the ground. They showed some footage last night.
                      Thanks for that - not seeing that interaction had cast a shadow over my recollection of the day.
                      Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 28 June 2020, 11:09 AM.

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8560

                        Originally posted by Mel_C
                        His grandfather definitely congratulated him on the ground. They showed some footage last night.
                        Correct.....that's why Joey was a bit late to the joyous group photo after cup presentation.????

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                        • Hereitis
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 7

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          Hard to get a chance at a contested mark when players constantly kick it over their heads. Why is it when we have clean ball coming out of defence we then chip it 20 metres, our player stands with the ball looking for the next short kick until after about 5 tries we turn it over. Dawson is one of the biggest culprits. As I have said he plays to his weaknesses.
                          I’d be surprised if it wasn’t coach’s instruction to control the ball out of defence (ie chip), then kick long into attack, bringing the ball to ground for the smalls. Not a great strategy IMO.


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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 745

                            There has been many more than just one bad game. Our youth is giving us nothing which is depressing for the future (except Rowbottom). I see super coach rated Blakey the worse player on the ground. Most of our youth were not far behind.

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                            • rb4x
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 968

                              I thought McInerney was very good. Blakey did not play badly, more like he did not play at all. Did not see him do anything of note whether good bad or indifferent. Thought Sinclair was not as bad as everyone says except for his horrible shot on goal. Taylor started the poor kicking for goal but he was not alone as Papley and McLean also missed sitters. McLean's miss was about all he did for the day.

                              McLean, Blakey and Taylor deserve to be dropped and as well Naismith needs to be replaced. Buddy. Reid, Knoll, Brand and Amartey are not ready to come in. We need a key defender and a key forward with only Melican, Maibaum and Gould in contention. From what I can read from scratch match reports none of them are bashing the door down as none have received a mention. O'Connor has been getting noticed but he can hardly be ready for AFL after a couple of scratch friendlies. At least we will have an advantage against the Demons. Three extra days rest.

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                              • Roadrunner
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 1481

                                I think our main problem is our forward line-with Buddy and Reid out, we only have Paps and Heeney to exert pressure and so opposition backs clear the ball consistently and put our defence under enormous pressure. McCartin is average at this stage and is more suited as CHB. We need to find out about our youngsters to see who will make the grade and not worry about where we finish this year. So I would make the following moves: Joey and Parks to the forward line, Allir to ruck, Dawson and Blakey to the wings, Ramps half back, Mills, Rowbottom, Hewett and Stephens to midfield. Sinkers 2 nd ruck and up forward and persevere with McLean. We need to find out which players are going to make it-potential is great but ain’t enough any more with some of our players. Horse needs to toughen up on some of these guys- so many passengers is simply not acceptable!
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