Round 10: the other games. Festival of the Boot (part 2).

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  • dejavoodoo44
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    • Apr 2015
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    General footy chat Round 10: the other games. Festival of the Boot (part 2).

    Thought I'd start this thread already, as the second round of the AFL's festival of footy actually starts tonight, with the Port v Bulldogs game. Until Friday, the round has a game each night. We play Collingwood at the Gabba on Thursday.

    Tonight's game seems like a tipster's nightmare to me. Both side have looked excellent when winning and ordinary when losing. Could be a frenetic, highly entertaining and closely fought contest. Or it could be a 40 or 50 point win: to either side.
  • dejavoodoo44
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    #2
    Actually, now that I've checked, Wednesday and Thursday both have two matches.

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    • neilfws
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      • Aug 2009
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      #3
      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      Tonight's game seems like a tipster's nightmare to me. Both side have looked excellent when winning and ordinary when losing. Could be a frenetic, highly entertaining and closely fought contest. Or it could be a 40 or 50 point win: to either side.
      The modelers are going with Port, and may that indeed be the case

      Port Adelaide v Western Bulldogs @ Adelaide Oval

      Adelaide v Melbourne could be interesting. At Adelaide Oval, Melbourne woeful last round, could be a chance for Adelaide's first win. If not they truly are woeful.

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      • dejavoodoo44
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        #4
        Originally posted by neilfws
        The modelers are going with Port, and may that indeed be the case

        Port Adelaide v Western Bulldogs @ Adelaide Oval

        Adelaide v Melbourne could be interesting. At Adelaide Oval, Melbourne woeful last round, could be a chance for Adelaide's first win. If not they truly are woeful.
        Yes, and I notice that they're predicting Collingwood to beat us, with much the same degree of unanimity. Though I am curious how much the predictions are amended, once the teams are announced? I mean, if I was a dedicated stats person, I think I would be loathe to make a prediction, until I knew who was running out. As in, did the star player for Team A get over his hamstring niggle. Or was there a couple of unexpected outs for Team B. Or even, does the advantage swing away from the taller and heavier team A, now that rain is predicted.

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        • 707
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          • Aug 2009
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          #5
          Originally posted by neilfws
          The modelers are going with Port, and may that indeed be the case

          Port Adelaide v Western Bulldogs @ Adelaide Oval

          Adelaide v Melbourne could be interesting. At Adelaide Oval, Melbourne woeful last round, could be a chance for Adelaide's first win. If not they truly are woeful.
          Melbourne may be woeful but have you watched the Crows, would struggle in the SANFL right now. If the Dees lose to the Crows then Goodwin is gone, way too much talent to get beaten by the hapless Crows.

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          • neilfws
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            • Aug 2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
            Though I am curious how much the predictions are amended, once the teams are announced? I mean, if I was a dedicated stats person, I think I would be loathe to make a prediction, until I knew who was running out.
            Good questions! I don't know the details of the models and which, if any, use individual player stats. One issue might be that the predictions need to be submitted well ahead of time, so perhaps don't use player data because late changes would invalidate the models.

            I know there is some interest in that area though, for example this blog post.

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            • KTigers
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              • Apr 2012
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              #7
              Originally posted by 707
              Melbourne may be woeful but have you watched the Crows, would struggle in the SANFL right now. If the Dees lose to the Crows then Goodwin is gone, way too much talent to get beaten by the hapless Crows.
              "Woeful"? I believe Melbourne are two spots higher (with a game in hand) than us on the ladder right now...
              I know he is a South Australian but you have to wonder if Matthew Nicks is wishing he never left the assistant gig
              at GWS right now.

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              • dejavoodoo44
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                #8
                Enjoyable first quarter in the Port v Bulldogs game. Some good skills and hard contests. Had to feel for Port first gamer Boyd Woodcock, though. First shot for goal, first goal celebration, only to be denied by the AFL equivalent of snicko.

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                • Nico
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                  #9
                  Did anyone see the 20 metre throw by Libba? Got pinged for one right in front of the ump a few minutes earlier, but how that got missed has me puzzled.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • dejavoodoo44
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nico
                    Did anyone see the 20 metre throw by Libba? Got pinged for one right in front of the ump a few minutes earlier, but how that got missed has me puzzled.
                    Yes, of all the blatant chuckers in the Bulldogs, he's become the most blatant. And when they do get pinged, they have the nerve to loudly remonstrate with the umpires.

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                    • KTigers
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                      • Apr 2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Yes, of all the blatant chuckers in the Bulldogs, he's become the most blatant. And when they do get pinged, they have the nerve to loudly remonstrate with the umpires.
                      Well, Libba Jnr is really disappointed with the inconsistency of the umpiring, because let's face it they won a flag for throwing.
                      Also, he doesn't like to be singled out for ridicule. The Bulldogs are all about inclusion. They all throw together, as one. In fact
                      at training the traditional hand pass has been banned since the 2016 pre season and it's been edited out of all footage they use.
                      They are in the process of expunging all images of the hand pass from the clubs historical records and photos, even going so
                      far as burning very valuable footy cards of the great EJ hand passing. They are hand pass deniers.

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                      • Mark26
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                        • Jan 2017
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by KTigers
                        Well, Libba Jnr is really disappointed with the inconsistency of the umpiring, because let's face it they won a flag for throwing.
                        Also, he doesn't like to be singled out for ridicule. The Bulldogs are all about inclusion. They all throw together, as one. In fact
                        at training the traditional hand pass has been banned since the 2016 pre season and it's been edited out of all footage they use.
                        They are in the process of expunging all images of the hand pass from the clubs historical records and photos, even going so
                        far as burning very valuable footy cards of the great EJ hand passing. They are hand pass deniers.
                        Haha.

                        And now the Pigs have distilled an easy-to-remember slogan created by the Dogs of the kennel, "4 throws good, handballs bad".

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                        • Blood Fever
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                          #13
                          Notice Caroline Wilson has sprung to the defence of Eddie McGuire concerning the Covid breach involving Nathan Buckley. If it was any other president of a club that was and is continually in the news about player and other indiscretions, then she and the rest of the Melbourne footy media would be howling for he/she to be sacked. Same goes for the embarrassing number of conflicts of interests Mcguire is involved in. When it comes to the crunch, she is still a member of the buddy club that ensures he is a protected species. Farcical and infuriating.

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                          • barry
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blood Fever
                            Notice Caroline Wilson has sprung to the defence of Eddie McGuire concerning the Covid breach involving Nathan Buckley. If it was any other president of a club that was and is continually in the news about player and other indiscretions, then she and the rest of the Melbourne footy media would be howling for he/she to be sacked. Same goes for the embarrassing number of conflicts of interests Mcguire is involved in. When it comes to the crunch, she is still a member of the buddy club that ensures he is a protected species. Farcical and infuriating.
                            I actually think mcGuire is right on this. Buckley should be suspended and sent home. Its no accident. You suddenly dont start a game of tennis with randoms if you are in a hub.
                            Its the spineless AFL which slapped him with a wet lettuce.

                            This pandemic has really exposed Gill and the administation as a fraud. Dont get me started on firing of the journo!

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                            • snajik
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1115

                              #15
                              Wearing my best neutral hat, tonight's match definitely looking like match of the round.
                              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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