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Nah, the more times that I've looked at it, the more I'm convinced, that the only contact by Wicks's boot, is late contact to the thigh. This is after Quaynor has already slid along the turf, and it obviously didn't cause the shin damage. The fact that the story is snowballing, seems to be an excellent example of groupthink in action.
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Plenty of positives and negatives out of yesterdays match.
My positives:
- Fox. I love the man and he easily wins most improved this year. Credit to the coaches for playing him down back too.
- Wicks is a beauty. Needs to play every game for the rest of the year and is far ahead of Ronke, Taylor and Gray.
- Stephens has skills and talent. Will be a gun when we can pump games into him.
- Thurlow
- Dawson finally getting some form
- How good is Rowbottom!
Negatives:
- Taylor is soft as butter. Doesn't play Swans football and doesn't deserve another game in the seniors this year.
- Parker. Yes he tackled but that's it. 12 disposals, does nothing with his disposals, no goals, needs to lift.
- As a senior player, Reid needs to step up but hasn't. Very disappointing.
- Aliir has potential but isn't showing it.
- Ling won't make it. Been on the list for years, gets his chance and isn't any good.Comment
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Don't know what you're watching, but while Wicks is running at pace, his right boot doesn't get any closer than about 20-30cm to the right shin of Quaynor. Once Quaynor slides, there may be contact between boot and thigh, but that's not where the gash is. The left boot is on a different plane.Comment
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Yes, I've watched a few times now and I think it's possible Quaynor either slid onto the heel at the end of the slide, or was clipped just before going to ground.
It's hard to see even slowed down because it's over at the far left of the frame, but you do see him react at that point.
And the Swans have confirmed mixed stops including metal, so we don't have to conjecture other causes (which is not to rule them out). I'm not saying anything is conclusive, just very possible.
If true it's very unfortunate and I'm sure Wicks feels rotten about it, I guess the league as a whole will learn from the incident.Last edited by neilfws; 7 August 2020, 01:54 PM.Comment
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Yes, there was contact at the end of the slide. But by that time, Quaynor's shin is more or less parallel with the turf. The contact is with the lower thigh, not where the gash is. And until then, there is no interruption to Wicks's stride. So I don't really see, how Wicks could strike a shin with enough force, to cause a deep, long gash, without faltering. But I can see how someone sliding over the top of a sprinkler, or some other stray sharp object, could do that.Comment
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Swans statement:
The Sydney Swans have been in contact with the AFL following an incident in last night’s game that resulted in an injury to Magpie Isaac Quaynor.
The injury is believed to have resulted from a freak accident that involved contact with the boots of Sydney Swans debutant Sam Wicks. It remains unclear which part of the boot made contact with Quaynor’s leg.
The Swans can confirm that the boots Wicks was wearing were standard issue screw in boots, that have a hybrid soleplate which includes plastic and aluminium stops.
These boots are understood to be widely worn by players across the competition.
Following discussions with the AFL it has become clear that these boots are not compliant with AFL regulations.
The Sydney Swans will take steps to rectify this immediately to ensure that all boots are compliant going forward.
The club has been in contact with Collingwood to express its regret for the incident and concern for Isaac, whom we wish a speedy recovery.Comment
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Stephens been given the green light to break the lines and looks great
Wicks is great, for all the small forwards we have none of them consistently lay 5 tackles a game, he will play heaps if he continues like that
Taylor would be getting strong feedback, as the bad is glaring but i will say he is getting to more contests which is good.
Parker gets a pass as effort is always 100% and where has everyone been ? His kicks are always over his shoulder with 3 people tackling him
Reid missed a lot of footy and is always a sideshow, not the main show and did get spoiled about 3 times by teammates going the same ball.Comment
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Pleased with that effort. An attacking game plan that uses the corridor will always rely on precision skills, and unfortunately once again our foots skills weren't up to standard. I counted at least 5 kicks through the corridor that either sailed over the target's head, landed at the target's ankles, or missed the target altogether and hit a Collingwood player instead. We need to even the ratio of effective kicks to turnovers and we will see a lot more inside 50 opportunities.
Some of the stand-outs for me:
- Sinclair. Thought Cal was a behemoth against a superior ruck. But he nullified Grundy's impact as best as he could, ably helped by Grundy looking a little out of sorts of late.
- Bell, Stephens, Wicks all stood up in moments and showed signs they belong at the level, which is all you want to see from boys with -5 games.
- Possibly the first game I've seen Rowbottom play that suggests he could lead our midfield. Worked tirelessly all game.
- Dawson adds something to this team with his marking and long kicking. Have missed it this year.
- Parker led from the front with his intensity. 12 tackles and there must've been at least four or five that nearly stuck too.
- Thurlow as forward seemed a bit of a genius touch. Would like to see more of it.Comment
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This statement infers that we may have a problem that needs to be addressed.
Other clubs can learn from how we have dealt with this.
1. We have admitted a mistake on our part may have been the cause of an injury to an opposition player.
2. We have said that we will fix any problem that exists.
3. We have formally and properly apologized to the opposition player and his club.
That's how you deal with a mistake you've made. Clarkson and McGuire in particular should take note of how you should behave when you've caused a problem for someone else.Comment
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As usual, the Swans reacts with integrity and honesty to the latest of a series of attacks on our club.....and Clarkson has the gall to suggest that outside forces are trying to destabilise HIS club. What a jerk!
Very happy the statement included the line "it remains unclear what part of the boot made contact with Quaynors leg."....because seriously, it is very hard to determine this from the footage available.
It seems also that many clubs will now be checking their players boots for compliance from what the above statement claims.Comment
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Yes, my interpretation is that it's we're apologising for Sam wearing boots, that we since found out are illegal, but really, we think that their use is widespread across the competition. And in addition to the "it remains unclear" line that you picked up on, there's also, "the injury is believed to have resulted". Which I think would be, 'we believe the injury resulted', if we were fully convinced. Essentially, we're not going to stand in front of the media bus, because we can't argue that the boots are fine, but we would prefer it if you're not too hard on the kid, because many others have been inadvertently wearing those dodgy studs.
Just a shame that now, probably nobody will be investigating whether it really was a sprinkler head. Or even a key misplaced by Tony Greig, a couple of decades ago?Comment
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None of this is to minimise the seriousness of the injury but . . .
What's pretty clear from the AFL statement is they've realised a bucket of players across a bucket of clubs have been wearing these. Hence, no fine or sanction, and no damning words specific to Sydney or Wicks.
Because it's ultimately their workplace governed by their rules, including them setting compliance requirements. So they've trodden lightly today, and will enforce the rules from here on in.'Delicious' is a fun word to sayComment
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Apparently Daisy Thomas has put out a tweet saying the same thing happened to him once - playing against Collingwood!Comment
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