Round 14 • Port v Sydney Swans @ Adelaide

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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    Last I looked, he's out of contract at the end of the season. Since about 2/3 of the way through last season, I had him as a delist. Now, I'm not entirely sure, but more likely than not.
    3yr Ext written up after GWS game
    Pen not working after today

    Tough gig when a midfield gets detroyed, he is a finisher and we had about 4 fwd thrusts in the 1st half

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4049

      Originally posted by waswan
      3yr Ext written up after GWS game
      Pen not working after today

      Tough gig when a midfield gets detroyed, he is a finisher and we had about 4 fwd thrusts in the 1st half
      Agree he is a very good kick but not great in traffic

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        That was much more promising than last week's outing against Freo. Our midfield got annihilated in the first half, 30-10 in clearances, and to Horse's credit he changed things around and put Aliir in the ruck and McCartin down back, both of which worked. And we really turned it around in the 3rd quarter. If we'd kicked straight we could have got a lot closer at 3 quarter time.

        I think our midfield is caught between the old guard, Parker and JPK who both look (and are) slow, and the newbies: Rowbottom, Florent, Lizard etc, who aren't quite there yet. Felt like we were beaten inside and outside the contest and structurally. They always seemed to have a player there to receive a handball over the top.

        *Aliir looks a better prospect in the ruck than he does as an intercepting defender, although he's not much of a forward.
        *McCartin looked like he'd found his spot today, particularly when he outbodied Charlie Dixon right at the end there.
        *We have significantly changed the way we move the ball this year, above all trying to kick it back into the corridor, its clearly a work in progress, but its a vast improvement and pretty exciting when it works.
        *We used to be one of the more efficient sides going inside 50 but today looked atrocious. I have a feeling that they'd been instructed to bomb it long rather than honour leads, but it really did NOT work.
        *Sam Reid is not exactly setting the world alight right now.

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          Are we seriously bagging Melican playing against the biggest Key fwf in the comp and a midfield that dominated clean possession

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4218

            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
            Still enough to like about that performance. Vastly improved on last week. J Mac was good I thought. Mccartin down back. Joey much better. Allir best game in a while.


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            Agree with all of that. Good effort - lacked goal threat and they looked much more threatening in F50.

            Great to see Joey hit back well.

            McCartin looks like a key defender: 4 possessions in the first half as a forward; 12 in the second half as a defender. Four contested marks. Beat Dixon. He's quick and tough and poised.

            Another good game from Fox, who keeps improving.

            Mills was mostly good and Lloyd's another BSM chance this year. Extremely consistent.

            Nine tackles from Wicks.

            Disappointing from Reid. I doubt Bell will play next week. Melican well beaten. We need more from Blakey.

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
              ( Although with your seemingly ridiculous expectations of eternal success you’ll probably be disappointed )
              Im trying to think of my expectations written down and shared that have been so baaaaaaaad ?

              Have you seen them outlined MB?

              YET..............I do see factually that we are moving backwards on the ladder and I do sense protracted sideways for a few years..................Buddy gone........Rampe Gone and Kennedy Gone all very soon and not at their very bet any longer..........they have peaked and or injured !

              So who will replace these amazing players ?

              Kennedy?
              Buddy?
              Rampe?

              who will replace this gap with the same dominance ?

              will our junior draft picks balance the scales of past success??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????

              MB this is not about you vs me

              this is about the Sydney Swans being given a fair chance vs the VAFL !!!

              As mentioned Brisbane and the Suns were left in pain and at the bottom of the table for so long

              Why do you think the Swans will be treated differently when all indications of intent have been crystal clear vs the swans for the last 4/5 years

              why ?

              The Lions and the Suns were not supported for so many years ! .............sooooooooooo many years !!!!

              why will we ?

              when will we ?

              we aint gunna make it without the same advantages that WA, SA and Vic currently experience via players staying home................almost every supporter on this site pointed to we have an unfair advantage when recruiting...........they want to stay or go home !!!!! and that aint sydney !

              we missed out on key recruits because melb was easier staying home

              why will that change suddenly in 2021 ?? or beyond

              Paps wants to go home
              Rohan wants to go home
              Jones wants to go home
              and on and one on and on !!!

              How many players want to leave the bubble vs stay at home ?

              not many
              we need many !!!!
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4218

                Originally posted by AB Swannie
                When is this site implementing the mute or ignore button?
                I just quicken my scroll rate.

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11339

                  Originally posted by dimelb
                  Auntie G, I think you have put your finger on something I have been griping about, namely, that our players are too close to each other and play in clumps rather than spread a few metres further apart and give themselves more room to move. When we do, you can see how much more movement we get without handing the ball to the opposition. That end-to-end goal is an example of what I mean.
                  Particularly at throw ins. Opposition always have someone a few metres off the pack. Also too often we hand ball in the midfield when clear. It is called over hand balling.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    mute
                    ignore
                    ouch

                    difference of opinion

                    not abuse
                    nor head in the sand

                    apologies for raising my concern

                    apologies for appearing worried about our trajectory

                    I am simply concerned about our current trajectory vs other satellite teams that have encountered the same ILL fortune of nothing !!!

                    Brisbane 2005 to 2018.............. 11th to 18th (14yrs)
                    Gold Coast no need to mention

                    the love to these teams came so late it was just silly

                    it was after all sense prevailed

                    it fear the same for the swans
                    same trajectory
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Just had a look at the stats. They confirmed that Wicks is a goer. Laid more tackles than anyone on the ground and also tied with Parker, for most pressure acts, with 32. However, Wicks only had 70% game time, opposed to Parker's 90%, and was playing largely forward 50, rather than midfield.
                      Negating forward and we did hold the footy in the forward line a lot better this week. I don't think we will know about Wicks until he is given an extended run in the midfield.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8557

                        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                        sorrry the OMG was thurlow running behind Butters

                        just reminded me of how good it is in sport to push your opposition sideways or backwards so your defence can set !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        apologies stevoswan !!!!..........i wasnt clear but thurlow made it so !!!!!!
                        As I said.....deep breath.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                          mute
                          ignore
                          ouch

                          difference of opinion

                          not abuse
                          nor head in the sand

                          apologies for raising my concern

                          apologies for appearing worried about our trajectory

                          I am simply concerned about our current trajectory vs other satellite teams that have encountered the same in fortune of nothing !!!

                          Brisbane 2005 to 2018.............. 11th to 18th (14yrs)
                          Gold Coast no need to mention
                          You clearly Love the team, as we all do. Your posts aren’t out of line. I just think you’re being unfair on this young side, and are focusing far too much on the negatives ( which there are many i agree) instead of the positives ( of which I think there have been many this year and last). I’m just not sure what you’re expectations were approaching this year. Mine were to see improvement in our youngsters and in development of game style. Decent ticks for both categories IMO. Can see us pushing the 8 next year and probably missing out by a few wins. Can see a top 8 side in 2022, and a team hopefully contending after that. Might take longer. I can live with that.


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                          • Wardy
                            The old Boiler!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 6676

                            Originally posted by snajik
                            I really hope Mark Riccuito brings out a christmas album this year. Such a beautiful voice.
                            Kevin Bloody Wilson style?? ????????
                            I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                            Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                            AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              You’ve made your point AG. You’re welcome to your opinion. People disagree. You haven’t changed my mind and it seems like no one is able to change yours so can you just agree to disagree and move on?

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                              • Ralph Dawg
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1729

                                Originally posted by AB Swannie
                                Maybe I’m just a glass half full guy but I thought that we showed heaps of promise. We played the team coming first at their home ground. We have injuries on injuries including probably our three best players (Buddy, Rampe, Heeney). Port have almost a full list available and yet we dominated general play for large parts of that game.

                                McCartin is a beauty! I have said for a while that I think he could be an AA defender but I can also see his value up front.
                                He looked good as a defender. McLean looks to have good hands and is a nice set shot - he can come in to play forward. Or Amartey.

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