Round 14 • Port v Sydney Swans @ Adelaide

[Wardy]

I guess it is what it is - this year has been just crazy in every way - be it life & footy - this year has been a nightmare for our club but I’m looking forward to next year (my 20thyear of membership) Our injured should be back (Hopefully) - life MAY be back to some kind of normal and Maybe our kids will just click with the senior statesman of our team - I’m hopeful for our clubs future.

[Markwebbos]

He looked good as a defender. McLean looks to have good hands and is a nice set shot - he can come in to play forward. Or Amartey.

This probably should have its own thread, but who's going out if Amartey/McLean are coming in?

[Auntie.Gerald]

AB and MB

Im not saying your are wrong and I am right
there are so many factors beyond our limited view of the Swans and the AFL that we cant control

if we suddenly land 3 players to replace the likes of Buddy, Rampe and or Kennedy at their best then push me in the corner and i wont make a sound

But the reality of the last few years or is that we have NOT been massively competitive with attracting some seriously important outlier players

we havent had them on the field together for some while now
we have recruited youth but no Dustin Martins or Dangerfields etc have ermerged as yet............i am not saying McCartin nor Blakey can make it........they might

What I am saying is that we are on the same recruitment journey as Brisbane and the Suns and or Carlton

I am genuinely concerned we will go sideways for a few years minimum if not more

I am not a pelican

I have coached rep sports and amateur sports for 25 years............i have coached 7 GF wins and our teams I have had the honour of coaching have made the top 4 over 20 yrs from 25 yrs

i do genuinely feel i have a sense of trajectory and or team list to be super competitive

I dont sense i am chicken little and the sky is falling in

I am seriously concerned that the AFL is ignoring the Sydney Swans ie a team that is massively dependant on players s from interstate to be attracted to move to Sydney........ for the Swans to be competitive.

Thats just my opinion

it is not an argument

[stevoswan]

just to challenge the debilitating comments

really?

you find my sense of realism debilitating ?

you feel weak by my comments ?

come on

lets all grow up here

we are seriously in a trajectory with minimal support by the AFL

this is not about you vs me

this about an AFL that picks and chooses

this about an AFL that will support a WAFL, SANFL, VICtorian dominance before and a QLD Brisvegas or Suns dominance

they have let Brisbane do it once
They have let Sydney do it
They wont afford the Suns or GWS the same luxury

it is a manipulated system to support their growth but not ahead of their favourites for too long

The lobby of victoria will win in the end

we wont !

seriously the no trading
the buddy pay if he is injured bad luck

these were enough to smash our trajectory of being in the top8 for long

these areas were underestimated by most
but not by swans supporters
a little under the radar by some
note by others as ....................debilitating !!!!!

We are all aware of the A/VFL's shoddy treatment of us, 'the northern threat' and I think many would agree with your comments but maybe some of us just aren't ready to hoist the white flag and admit the a-holes down south may have won.

Swans fans have had to be resilient for long periods of time over history and now is another one of those times but our hope and pride in our club is stubborn....and there will be no white flag from me. Always glass half full.

Plus, it's better for the blood pressure.

[0918330512]

All in all a much better effort than last week against the top side on the ladder so can't be too disappointed even though we all expect a top effort week in week out.

I applaud your positivity, but seriously, short of setting another record even lower score as Sydney or having the team struck down by a freak and unseasonal lightening strike, how on earth could we have had a worse effort than last week??

[Blood Fever]

AB and MB

Im not saying your are wrong and I am right
there are so many factors beyond our limited view of the Swans and the AFL that we cant control

if we suddenly land 3 players to replace the likes of Buddy, Rampe and or Kennedy at their best then push me in the corner and i wont make a sound

But the reality of the last few years or is that we have NOT been massively competitive with attracting some seriously important outlier players

we havent had them on the field together for some while now
we have recruited youth but no Dustin Martins or Dangerfields etc have ermerged as yet............i am not saying McCartin nor Blakey can make it........they might

What I am saying is that we are on the same recruitment journey as Brisbane and the Suns and or Carlton

I am genuinely concerned we will go sideways for a few years minimum if not more

I am not a pelican

I have coached rep sports and amateur sports for 25 years............i have coached 7 GF wins and our teams I have had the honour of coaching have made the top 4 over 20 yrs from 25 yrs

i do genuinely feel i have a sense of trajectory and or team list to be super competitive

I dont sense i am chicken little and the sky is falling in

I am seriously concerned that the AFL is ignoring the Sydney Swans ie a team that is massively dependant on players s from interstate to be attracted to move to Sydney........ for the Swans to be competitive.

Thats just my opinion

it is not an argument

You've made your point ad nauseam. We get it.

[TheBloods]

A good spirited performance, with plenty of grit. This is where we are at as a team.

We won't be going anywhere with Bell, Thurlow, McInerney and the likes but our hands are tied by our injury list.

Still unsure where our next superstar player is going to come from.

[Hotpotato]

We struggled to get a centre clearance and couldn’t take a grab I50.

When those two issues are corrected , we’ll go OK . Our defence had to work overtime all day as usual.

[Blood Fever]

We struggled to get a centre clearance and couldn’t take a grab I50.

When those two issues are corrected , we’ll go OK . Our defence had to work overtime all day as usual.

Centre clearances a perennial problem

[Hotpotato]

We struggled to get centre clearances and couldn’t take a grab I50.

If we can correct those issues, we will go OK.
Our defence has to work overtime all day. They are so solid.

[Auntie.Gerald]

You've made your point ad nauseam. We get it.

ok fair enough
i hope we have got it and the AFL sees a serious danger for the Sydney Swans
i hope we dont get the rough end of the stick which i sense started with the no trade and the buddy bad luck 9 years either way binding contract by the afl......first ever and not replicated
if it is more comfortable and more appropriate for this particular forum i will remove myself and my opinion........
and see you next year

many thanks for the discussion as it has been alive and generally with good will for the better of the swans

[Melbourne_Blood]

A good spirited performance, with plenty of grit. This is where we are at as a team.

We won't be going anywhere with Bell, Thurlow, McInerney and the likes but our hands are tied by our injury list.

Still unsure where our next superstar player is going to come from.

I’ll give you Thurlow but Bell and Mcinerney have played less than 20 games between them. Bell (21 years old ) wasn’t great today but Mcinerney (20) was fair. Bell also has a good knack for popping up near goal, which isn’t a knack shared by too many of his teammates . Bit early to write them off I think.


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[TheBloods]

I’ll give you Thurlow but Bell and Mcinerney have played less than 20 games between them. Bell (21 years old ) wasn’t great today but Mcinerney (20) was fair. Bell also has a good knack for popping up near goal, which isn’t a knack shared by too many of his teammates . Bit early to write them off I think.


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Not expecting huge games from them but it's not hard to tell when a kid can play or not. Bell and McInerney just don't have it. Make poor decisions, fumble under pressure, make silly errors. Decent depth players but if they are in our best side in a few years time we're in trouble.

[Blood Fever]

Not expecting huge games from them but it's not hard to tell when a kid can play or not. Bell and McInerney just don't have it. Make poor decisions, fumble under pressure, make silly errors. Decent depth players but if they are in our best side in a few years time we're in trouble.

Wow. Such certainty after a handful of games. McInerney is a pup with potential. Bell has a mature body but has played less than ten games. Plenty of room for improvement in both.

[TheBloods]

Wow. Such certainty after a handful of games. McInerney is a pup with potential. Bell has a mature body but has played less than ten games. Plenty of room for improvement in both.

Not certainty, just a feeling. I don't see much that either offer. McInerney can run. So can half a dozen others on our list. Bell can tackle. So can half a dozen others on our list. Neither would be getting games if we were close to full strength.