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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4049

    #61
    Originally posted by Captain
    That's fine to respect all parties. The important part is they stood up for violence against women and stood him down.
    As I said, an excellent response.

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #62
      Originally posted by crackedactor 01
      Really disappointed about how many supporters are ready to find Elijah guilty before the evidence has been presented. He broke COVID rules but he was young and there is a 99.5 % survival rate. The domestic violence still need to be investigated to see how serious it is or even if they was fabricated.
      There are no differing levels of seriousness when it comes to domestic violence.
      Just one.
      Serious.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8559

        #63
        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Glad you're not a judge in the justice system. Just asking for the case to be judged on its merits according to the principles of natural justice when all details are examined.
        +1

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        • giant
          Veterans List
          • Mar 2005
          • 4731

          #64
          Right decision made.

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          • Kafka's Ghost
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2017
            • 903

            #65
            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Great post Syd. I agree with second chances and a club like the Swans could make it work.....this of course dependant on his level of offending and whether he is actually guilty or not. One things is for sure, if he does get a second chance it WON'T be in the number 37. That honour has passed him by.....on the Covid breach alone, let alone his latest controversy.

            It's all very sad and messy.
            Ditto.
            Clearly a very immature and irresponsible young man. If Collingwood can stand by Jordan De Goey when he’s been charged with sexual assault, then the Swans can give Elijah Taylor a chance at redemption, and the avoidance of a dark downwards spiral. But he has to accept this chance, and it won’t be in number 37 or number 19.

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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #66
              Originally posted by AnnieH
              There are no differing levels of seriousness when it comes to domestic violence.
              Just one.
              Serious.
              Correct.

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              • Roadrunner
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2018
                • 1480

                #67
                Originally posted by Kafka's Ghost
                Ditto.
                Clearly a very immature and irresponsible young man. If Collingwood can stand by Jordan De Goey when he’s been charged with sexual assault, then the Swans can give Elijah Taylor a chance at redemption, and the avoidance of a dark downwards spiral. But he has to accept this chance, and it won’t be in number 37 or number 19.
                Sorry Kafka-we’re better than Collingwood when it comes to ethical values. Just because Jordan De Goey is a star player doesn’t mean we can tolerate this kind of behaviour. Yes, Elijah is innocent until proven otherwise but clearly our club knows more and Tom Harley has referred to other incidents. Elijah has talent- so what? We set a standard that all football clubs and supporters can be proud of- we are Sydney Swans and have the best culture in the league!
                Sorry Elijah- goodbye!

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                • Sandrevan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2016
                  • 355

                  #68
                  I wondered if Jordan de Goey would get a mention.

                  Other recent players to have assault charges against them are Dane Swan and Michael Hurley. Both of these guys went on to have great AFL careers. They got looked after by the club and grew up. Their cases weren't DV but assault is assault.

                  There are probably others - just can't think of any at the moment.

                  I agree with Ludwig that ET should have stayed in the hub - and away from the (ex) GF. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

                  Agree he should be stripped of #37 - but to kick him out of the club would probably derail his life even further.

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                  • Bloody Hell
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3085

                    #69
                    Yep - Bloods Culture.... I'm not just talking about the Domestic Violence, but the being out at a hotel at 6am, the sneaking into the bubble - I can't imagine these are the only "minor" infractions. There is more to the story about why he was left behind in Perth. If I was serious about AFL, I would demand to be with the team and be given the chance to atone.

                    One of the few that Kinnear has got wrong. I was surprised when he was selected, as he was touted as a early 2nd round pick who will slip due to behavioral issues. No doubt trusted our system. Fails the "No dickheads" policy badly.
                    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8559

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Roadrunner
                      Sorry Kafka-we’re better than Collingwood when it comes to ethical values. Just because Jordan De Goey is a star player doesn’t mean we can tolerate this kind of behaviour. Yes, Elijah is innocent until proven otherwise but clearly our club knows more and Tom Harley has referred to other incidents. Elijah has talent- so what? We set a standard that all football clubs and supporters can be proud of- we are Sydney Swans and have the best culture in the league!
                      Sorry Elijah- goodbye!
                      The pic of his girlfriend is certainly damning evidence.....and while the process has to take it's course, unfortunately I think the damage is done and it might well be career over.....

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                      • Roadrunner
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 1480

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                        Yep - Bloods Culture.... I'm not just talking about the Domestic Violence, but the being out at a hotel at 6am, the sneaking into the bubble - I can't imagine these are the only "minor" infractions. There is more to the story about why he was left behind in Perth. If I was serious about AFL, I would demand to be with the team and be given the chance to atone.

                        One of the few that Kinnear has got wrong. I was surprised when he was selected, as he was touted as a early 2nd round pick who will slip due to behavioral issues. No doubt trusted our system. Fails the "No dickheads" policy badly.
                        Yes, it is a great shame and don’t get me wrong, I feel for the kid. But what options does the club have? We certainly will try to help him as we don’t want a spiral further downhill- we are not heartless like a certain politician!
                        But How on earth did he receive # 37? Wonder what Goodsey is feeling- not too good I suppose!

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                        • barracuda
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 551

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Sandrevan
                          I wondered if Jordan de Goey would get a mention.

                          Other recent players to have assault charges against them are Dane Swan and Michael Hurley. Both of these guys went on to have great AFL careers. They got looked after by the club and grew up. Their cases weren't DV but assault is assault.

                          There are probably others - just can't think of any at the moment.

                          I agree with Ludwig that ET should have stayed in the hub - and away from the (ex) GF. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

                          Agree he should be stripped of #37 - but to kick him out of the club would probably derail his life even further.
                          I think the thing with Elijah is that he is racking up repeated mistakes, despite all the help. He has so far two potential assaults, plus a breach of wa covid laws, despite express instructions. One off mistakes can be dealt with, but repeated can mean the person can’t be changed.

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8559

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Roadrunner
                            Yes, it is a great shame and don’t get me wrong, I feel for the kid. But what options does the club have? We certainly will try to help him as we don’t want a spiral further downhill- we are not heartless like a certain politician!
                            But How on earth did he receive # 37? Wonder what Goodsey is feeling- not too good I suppose!
                            I can only think it was a genuine display of faith in a 'risky' kid with huge potential to encourage him to aspire to greatness.....unfortunately they appear to have set the bar way too high. It's sad....

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                              Yep - Bloods Culture.... I'm not just talking about the Domestic Violence, but the being out at a hotel at 6am, the sneaking into the bubble - I can't imagine these are the only "minor" infractions. There is more to the story about why he was left behind in Perth. If I was serious about AFL, I would demand to be with the team and be given the chance to atone.

                              One of the few that Kinnear has got wrong. I was surprised when he was selected, as he was touted as a early 2nd round pick who will slip due to behavioral issues. No doubt trusted our system. Fails the "No dickheads" policy badly.
                              No. Kinnear didn't get it wrong.
                              The kid has awesome football skills - we're a football club, remember.
                              Pity he has just pissed them up a wall.
                              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                #75
                                I dunno... I find it hard to be harsh about quite young people going wrong. A lot of people here will likely know some
                                similar aged kid who despite being given some opportunities has messed up in a big way. The thing about opportunities
                                is you have to know how to take them as well. Some of these kids get it together and some don't. We only know about
                                this young bloke because he plays football. Maybe in time for his own sake he can learn to get his head into the right
                                place. And that may involve following some other vocation and not football.

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