Impact of Soft Cap reduction - changes to coaching and support staff for 2021

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #16
    Originally posted by RogueSwan
    "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."



    GWS must not have been watching any of our games this year, our fwd line has been just as @@@@ as theirs.

    The only argument that makes all stories plausable, is that their is a little bit of friction in the swans camp about the number of Geelong old-boys Harley has brought in. And when one of them saw the chance to jump, he did.

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      #17
      Originally posted by RogueSwan
      "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."



      GWS must not have been watching any of our games this year, our fwd line has been just as @@@@ as theirs.
      Thank you for providing a classic quote from the best movie ever made.

      I'm happy to see the back of him. I wouldn't mind us replacing him with a coach who isn't on his training wheels. I guess there'll be a fair few experienced heads around - our young group could do with a bit more guidance from an experienced coach IMHO.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8560

        #18
        Originally posted by barry
        The only argument that makes all stories plausable, is that their is a little bit of friction in the swans camp about the number of Geelong old-boys Harley has brought in. And when one of them saw the chance to jump, he did.
        Let's face it, that is purely a theory.....which may be accurate but just as feasibly is not. If true, with Playfair gone last year and now Johnson gone, there's only one Geelong person left besides Harley, Gardiner and neither coach.....so the boys must be a lot happier now.

        That SJ always wanted to coach at his Giants and came to a real football club to get some real experience before returning to GWS is probably closer to the actual truth.

        Of course, that is also speculation on my part.
        Last edited by stevoswan; 24 September 2020, 02:02 PM.

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        • cherub
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2010
          • 239

          #19
          Originally posted by Blood Fever
          Gossip very poor indication of facts.
          He did have access to the Swan's scratch match videos. He clearly knows someone close to the club. I would hazard a guess, but then I would be cutting off the source of information which interests me.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #20
            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Let's face it, that is purely a theory.....which may be accurate but just as feasibly is not. If true, with Playfair gone last year and now Johnson gone, there's only one Geelong person left besides Harley, Gardiner and neither coach.....so the boys must be a lot happier now.

            That SJ always wanted to coach at his Giants and came to a real football club to get some real experience before returning to GWS is probably closer to the actual truth.

            Of course, that is also speculation on my part.
            He's definitely closer to a senior coaching gig at the Giants than at the Swans, if thats his end game.

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            • rojo
              Opti-pessi-misti
              • Mar 2009
              • 1103

              #21
              I think we need a forward coach poached from a team which has coached a successful forwarded line, ie one that can post match winning scores. He must be experienced enough to be able to tell Big John that the role of the forward line is not to disappear up field to prop up the back line, under any circumstance; that the mids and half back lines default kicks into the forward line are to seek out leading players, to aim to drop the ball in front of a player or over the back, not on top of their heads or directly to the opposition. The chaos kick into the forward line is a last resort not the norm!

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8560

                #22
                Originally posted by barry
                He's definitely closer to a senior coaching gig at the Giants than at the Swans, if thats his end game.
                Definitely.....

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                • Aaron
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 805

                  #23

                  "It's one of those situations where footy departments are tightening," Harley said. "There was an opportunity we couldn't be in a position to guarantee in this point in time a role.
                  "With the reduction in soft caps and reduction of roles, the industry has to be cognisant to keep as many good people in the industry as you can.


                  "He has some history there and goes with our blessing. He gave us three really good years looking after a young developing forward line. A positive is he continues his coaching career and his family stays in Sydney."

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Aaron
                    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/coa...23-p55yij.html
                    "It's one of those situations where footy departments are tightening," Harley said. "There was an opportunity we couldn't be in a position to guarantee in this point in time a role.
                    "With the reduction in soft caps and reduction of roles, the industry has to be cognisant to keep as many good people in the industry as you can.


                    "He has some history there and goes with our blessing. He gave us three really good years looking after a young developing forward line. A positive is he continues his coaching career and his family stays in Sydney."
                    How many club CEOs can use the word "cognisant" like Harley?

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blood Fever
                      So you obviously know more than GWS about Johnson and their decision to hire him. And they only hired him because he is best mates with Toby Greene? Sorry mate, you've lost me. Deluded rubbish.
                      Who do you think taught Greene how to be a grub?
                      So glad to see the back of the behinds coach.
                      I was distraught when they hired him - he was a very dirty player.
                      The team, in my opinion, for the last three years, has been a bit "off"... purely my perspective... I blamed Stevie J - he's toxic.
                      Glad to see the back of him.
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        How many club CEOs can use the word "cognisant" like Harley?
                        It's highly likely this is the first time "cognisant" has ever been used in the discussion of football. We are in
                        uncharted territory.

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                        • barracuda
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 551

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          Who do you think taught Greene how to be a grub?
                          So glad to see the back of the behinds coach.
                          I was distraught when they hired him - he was a very dirty player.
                          The team, in my opinion, for the last three years, has been a bit "off"... purely my perspective... I blamed Stevie J - he's toxic.
                          Glad to see the back of him.
                          I agree

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KTigers
                            It's highly likely this is the first time "cognisant" has ever been used in the discussion of football. We are in
                            uncharted territory.
                            I like to think that when the (coffee table, hard-cover) book about club CEOs gets written, there will be a chapter in it about Tom Harley's ground-breaking use of the C word.

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8560

                              #29
                              There is no doubt Harley is cognisant.....and we are lucky to have him.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #30
                                Originally posted by KTigers
                                It's highly likely this is the first time "cognisant" has ever been used in the discussion of football. We are in
                                uncharted territory.
                                I do wonder if the good people of RWO are 'real fans' sometimes. Tom Harley has been using cognisant for a good decade now.
                                If you do a google search of "Tom Harley cognisant" you'll find a few examples.

                                I think even BT uses it sometimes.

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