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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    Originally posted by liz
    As are people on The Roar - I don't believe they are professional journos (or even people whose opinions are more valid than anyone else's). They're just fans who write for the Roar for fun.
    It could be argued that sometimes fans have a better view on their team than professional journos....

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      When it comes to our best 22, I would back the opinions of people on here at least as much as professional journalists who have to spread themselves across a lot more teams and sports. The main advantage that they potentially have is that they may interview and speak with people who know more than we do before they formulate their opinions. However, often so called sports "journalists" don't actually do that before churning out the guff that they are expected to. I don't really use the inverted commas perjoratively but more for precision. What I mean is that sports "journalists" largely are not journalists in the traditional sense - they don't limit themselves to reporting the news. They include a lot of editorial in what they write and don't have the same obligation to be fair and balanced etc. Sports reporting is a different beast to news reporting.
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        When it comes to our best 22, I would back the opinions of people on here at least as much as professional journalists who have to spread themselves across a lot more teams and sports. The main advantage that they potentially have is that they may interview and speak with people who know more than we do before they formulate their opinions. However, often so called sports "journalists" don't actually do that before churning out the guff that they are expected to. I don't really use the inverted commas perjoratively but more for precision. What I mean is that sports "journalists" largely are not journalists in the traditional sense - they don't limit themselves to reporting the news. They include a lot of editorial in what they write and don't have the same obligation to be fair and balanced etc. Sports reporting is a different beast to news reporting.
        I have to agree, SEN's "your club's best 22 heading into the 2021 season" names Mills in defence and suggests Harry Wicks is "on the brink"

        Your club's best 22 heading into the 2021 season

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          The level of in-depth analysis on RWO has only been equaled by the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials.

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4231

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            The level of in-depth analysis on RWO has only been equaled by the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials.
            I think of it more as a Royal Commission, but without (fortunately) the power to compel persons to appear to give evidence.

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              The level of in-depth analysis on RWO has only been equaled by the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials.
              Without the meting out of any Auto-da-fé
              I think it would sharpen things up on here if there was a bit more at ... stake

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8727

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                The level of in-depth analysis on RWO has only been equaled by the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials.
                I'm not sure if either of those had much quality analysis? More like detailed answers to silly questions.

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11343

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  I have to agree, SEN's "your club's best 22 heading into the 2021 season" names Mills in defence and suggests Harry Wicks is "on the brink"

                  Your club's best 22 heading into the 2021 season
                  That's an NFI team.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    I'm not sure if either of those had much quality analysis? More like detailed answers to silly questions.
                    I think you get my point!

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8727

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      I think you get my point!
                      Well, there's something to put on my resume: more in touch with reality than the Salem witch trials.

                      But instead of me going off along a tangent. The latest injury update had Fox out for around six weeks, after having hand surgery. Lloyd will miss this week with a minor strain, but should be okay for round one. There was also some Buddy news that I didn't really know how to interpret. It said that it was an important couple of weeks, as he looks to resume full training. So if he does resume full training, how many more weeks will it be, before he's ready to play?

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                      • Ralph Dawg
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1729

                        I seem to be having trouble posting!

                        Anyway only point I wanted to make was that I think Hewett might struggle for game time this year. With Mills moving into the middle, JPK and Parker entrenched and youngsters such as Rowbottom, Florent, Stephens and "The" Chad looking for inside opportunities (not to mention pinch hitting from Lizard, Heeney and Paps, possibly even Errol and Campbell too), it's looking a bit crowded and something will have to give.

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1807

                          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                          Well, there's something to put on my resume: more in touch with reality than the Salem witch trials.

                          But instead of me going off along a tangent. The latest injury update had Fox out for around six weeks, after having hand surgery. Lloyd will miss this week with a minor strain, but should be okay for round one. There was also some Buddy news that I didn't really know how to interpret. It said that it was an important couple of weeks, as he looks to resume full training. So if he does resume full training, how many more weeks will it be, before he's ready to play?
                          I posted the above in the match practice thread.but 1/2 time in tonght's Saints v Carlton practiceTom Morris reported Buddy is gunning for R1 but Club is taking cautuous approach

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8727

                            Originally posted by KSAS
                            I posted the above in the match practice thread.but 1/2 time in tonght's Saints v Carlton practiceTom Morris reported Buddy is gunning for R1 but Club is taking cautuous approach
                            Personally, I'd be very surprised if Buddy was ready for round one. Though if he was, I would consider it a happy omen for the rest of the season.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6483

                              RD......i suspect with the amount of injuries most teams suffer we wont have a problemo with our rotation

                              Hewett at his best fits into just about any team in the comp..............I loved his season playing a lot on the HFF posting up like a Toby Greene, as much as his midfield work

                              Such a consistent player
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • NeonBible
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Mar 2021
                                • 280

                                Hi all

                                A few weeks away from rd 1, new season, coaching changes, some fresh faces on the list I am feeling optimistic about our chances this year. Won't be winning the flag but i think with a good run with injuries we can push for the eight.

                                Here are a few of my thoughts on what i have heard and seen over the pre-season:

                                - Love Mills playing in the midfield. I was beginning to think we would never see it, but i now see John Longmire's grand plan.. adding Mills right when we need him in there. Kennedy not getting younger, Parker will be wasted in his prime years if he doesnt have more able support. I always had Hewett pegged as that next player, but hasnt come along as we'd hoped. Injuries at the wrong time haven't helped George.

                                - I am rapt to know the Lizard has been starring on the wing. 195cm, deceptively quick, I reckon he will pose a surprisingly tricky match-up on the wing. "Mills gets it out to Blakey" has a nice ring to it.

                                - Thrilled to see Hickey's performance. Seemed fit and mobile, good jump on him. 22 games from you this year thanks, Tom.

                                - The silly report that Lance could be an inclusion for rd 1. Why? Nothing to gain from rushing back one of our most important players. Would much prefer he miss the first month and we get the next 4 months after that out of him than he plays rd 1 and is injured again by rd 4. Unless i hear it from someone's lips affiliated with the club, i choose not to buy into any media reporting on Lance!

                                - Upsetting to hear Fox will have a delayed start to the season, I love a good battler. Upside is that this could mean more opportunities for... who? Matthew Ling? Or will Will Gould finally get his break?

                                - Quietly optimistic about what changes Don Pyke can ring in. What a formidable coaching line up. John Longmire. Dean Cox. Don Pyke. Brett Kirk. Jarrad McVeigh. They have seen some premierships between them. I hear Pyke was the brains behind Mills being moved into the midfield, but i have a sneaking suspicion Longmire was waiting for the right group of coaches and players to make such big changes, and we finally have it. Its so exciting - Mills as a midfielder, the Lizard on a wing, Tom McCartin as a true centre half back, Ling in the best 22. Academy boys everywhere. It might not all work but at least we wont die wondering!!

                                - Finally i'm amused by the discussions about James Rowbottom. He is an exceptional young kid and talent. Respect all are entitled to their opinions, but we dont know what's going on with these players. We are fans and spectators for a reason. I thought he was solid on the weekend and his second quarter was a ripper that helped turn the tide of the game. Anyone questioning his off-season commitment might be interested to know that over the summer he joined my son's track club in Toorak and put in hours on the track nearly every day. No tins or Big Macs in sight.

                                Excited for the weekend and the season ahead!

                                Cheer cheer !!

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