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  • AnsweredPrayers
    Warming the Bench
    • Feb 2010
    • 123

    Originally posted by Nico
    Remember Papley?
    More legitimate targets up forward should provide more crumbing opportunities for Papley, that combined with a less attention, makes me think he'll have a boom year. Often last year he was our only forward and very heavily marked.

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    • Mountain Man
      Regular in the Side
      • Feb 2008
      • 910

      To stretch the thread of Best 22 further toward our best forward set up, I am so envious of Geelong's use of Hawkins as the ruck in forward throw ins/ups.

      He rarely gets beaten; Geelong can set up with their smalls and attack the goal; meanwhile the genuine ruck is blocking off one of the exits; and thus 2 of the less-mobile players are out of the way.

      I wonder if McLean is strong enough to perform the Hawkins role?

      Our ruckman and say McCartin could block both boundary lines, and with the wonderful Rampe patrolling the middle, the odds increase on returning the exit ball.

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      • dejavoodoo44
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2015
        • 8728

        Originally posted by Mountain Man
        To stretch the thread of Best 22 further toward our best forward set up, I am so envious of Geelong's use of Hawkins as the ruck in forward throw ins/ups.

        He rarely gets beaten; Geelong can set up with their smalls and attack the goal; meanwhile the genuine ruck is blocking off one of the exits; and thus 2 of the less-mobile players are out of the way.

        I wonder if McLean is strong enough to perform the Hawkins role?

        Our ruckman and say McCartin could block both boundary lines, and with the wonderful Rampe patrolling the middle, the odds increase on returning the exit ball.
        I'm also interested in how McLean shapes up. If he becomes a dangerous forward option and relief ruckman, it will be a bonus. If he doesn't quite shape up, there's always the option of playing Sinclair mainly as a forward. Although, much as I like his whole hearted efforts, Sinclair might be spending a fair bit of the season, as a leader of our VFL side.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11346

          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
          I'm also interested in how McLean shapes up. If he becomes a dangerous forward option and relief ruckman, it will be a bonus. If he doesn't quite shape up, there's always the option of playing Sinclair mainly as a forward. Although, much as I like his whole hearted efforts, Sinclair might be spending a fair bit of the season, as a leader of our VFL side.
          We may go with 2 rucks. At this stage Sinkers is a country mile in front of McLean. Unless McLean can improve his agility 500% then he will be our 3rd option. Takes a mark, kicks a goal and disappears.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8728

            Originally posted by Nico
            We may go with 2 rucks. At this stage Sinkers is a country mile in front of McLean. Unless McLean can improve his agility 500% then he will be our 3rd option. Takes a mark, kicks a goal and disappears.
            Yes, but reports are that he has improved his mobility and his tank. If true, he might become very good: strong hands, crashes a pack, straight kick and tackles hard (when he catches someone).

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            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              Originally posted by Nico
              We may go with 2 rucks. At this stage Sinkers is a country mile in front of McLean. Unless McLean can improve his agility 500% then he will be our 3rd option. Takes a mark, kicks a goal and disappears.
              I also hope we revert to 2 rucks. I expect we'll start the season playing Hickey in the ruck, with Sinkers providing ruck support and a marking target up front. With Logan an unknown, McCartin down back and Sam's body untrustworthy - we'll need one.
              I was glad to see that Buddy seems to have shed some weight, presumably to help him regain his speed - bulking him up to turn him into a true key forward always seemed a forlorn hope at this stage of his career. Much better for the team if he is allowed to concentrate on what he's good at, I'd think that a more likely way of getting some return on investment.

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              • Ralph Dawg
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2018
                • 1729

                Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                I also hope we revert to 2 rucks. I expect we'll start the season playing Hickey in the ruck, with Sinkers providing ruck support and a marking target up front. With Logan an unknown, McCartin down back and Sam's body untrustworthy - we'll need one.
                I was glad to see that Buddy seems to have shed some weight, presumably to help him regain his speed - bulking him up to turn him into a true key forward always seemed a forlorn hope at this stage of his career. Much better for the team if he is allowed to concentrate on what he's good at, I'd think that a more likely way of getting some return on investment.
                Buddy's physique reminded me of Greg Inglis in his last few years of NRL. Very top heavy with relatively skinny legs. No coincidence both have had alot of injuries. I don't know whether the players aim for this or they are instructed to bulk by the club but either way, I don't get it. Both Inglis and Buddy murdered the opposition with speed and silky skills when lean.

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                • wolftone57
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5861

                  Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                  Which ex players? Could you supply links?
                  Csmmeron Ling, David King, Glen Jacovich, Jude Bolton, Gérard Healy, Gary Lyon, Dermie. They are just a few. Jacovich was really positive and believes Swans can go all the way

                  Sent from my JAT-L29 using Tapatalk

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    I managed to find Jacovich - who suggests being cautious with Logan - ?Sportsday WA: Glen Jakovich's predictions of the 2021 AFL season - Sydney Swans on Apple Podcasts
                    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 29 January 2021, 06:40 AM.

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5861

                      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                      I managed to find Jacovich - who suggests being cautious with Logan - ?Sportsday WA: Glen Jakovich's predictions of the 2021 AFL season - Sydney Swans on Apple Podcasts
                      Even last year King was saying ours was a lost on the way up. He said of all the bottom teams the Swans were his pick to make the top Eight. When asked whether our list was more talented than Carlton's he said he believed so. He thinks we have the most exciting list in the AFL. I hope he is right. Healy and Jude have both stated how exciting they believe Swans list to be on many occasions. Healy believes we can go top 4. Same as Jacovich.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        If we scrape into the 8 I will be very pleasantly surprised. That would require a major improvement on 2020. And there are a lot of other teams allegedly on the rise.

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6483

                          Ralf Dawg I had my ACL recon same day as GI same surgeon.........was a very funny day as we came out of surgery almost 4 years ago laughing our heads off from the effects of the general.

                          But he said that it was like his 11th knee surgery which is very different to Bud.

                          Goodes had more issues with his knees then Buddy has. But it appears Bud is struggling with prolonged OP and surrounding complications. Fingers crossed like Kennedy, Hannes and players like Bill Slater etc they come back from OP.
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8728

                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            Ralf Dawg I had my ACL recon same day as GI same surgeon.........was a very funny day as we came out of surgery almost 4 years ago laughing our heads off from the effects of the general.

                            But he said that it was like his 11th knee surgery which is very different to Bud.

                            Goodes had more issues with his knees then Buddy has. But it appears Bud is struggling with prolonged OP and surrounding complications. Fingers crossed like Kennedy, Hannes and players like Bill Slater etc they come back from OP.
                            Yes, I recall waking up in a happy place, after a shoulder reconstruction.

                            In regards to Buddy. I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression that his hamstring problems are back related. That is, his back is slightly out of alignment and this is putting added strain on his hamstrings. Consequently, his rehab has concentrated on building core strength, and if that can improve his posture, then there will be less chance of future hamstring tears.

                            So far, it seems to be working. From what I've seen of training, he appears to be slimmer around the midsection and perhaps less sway backed. He also looks to be striding out nicely: albeit in a straight line. Though of course, the real test will come soon, when he has to start doing direction changes and rapidly accelerating and decelerating leading patterns. Then trying to beat defenders like Rampe and Melican in match simulations. But, so far, so good.

                            And if we want to get really optimistic: he's currently on 944 goals. Which means another 44 to reach the 1,000. Achievable?

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                            • Mountain Man
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 910

                              944 goals is correct

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8728

                                Originally posted by Mountain Man
                                944 goals is correct
                                Whoops, another 56 to reach 1,000.

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