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  • royboy42
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 2076

    #76
    Originally posted by barry
    All I can say is thank god for Adelaide. I think our rebound has been delayed a year or two with the departure of Allir
    If your second thought indicates your opinion, how do you reconcile your first?
    I'm puzzled.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #77
      I see someone voted for Buddy to win the Coleman.

      I think we cannot make the 8 without Buddy. If he plays most of the year it’s possible but unlikely.

      More important is seeing significant growth from our crop of young players, seeing some of that talent and potential bear fruit.

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      • Ruck'n'Roll
        Ego alta, ergo ictus
        • Nov 2003
        • 3990

        #78
        My bouyant prediction was made on the basis of negligible impact from Buddy.

        What is causing me to 2nd guess is the statue rule.
        It's clearly designed to increase scoring and game speed. But I'm wondering whether it will have and adverse effect on those sides that generate a larger amount of their attack from their backline, like us.

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        • Jimitron5000
          Warming the Bench
          • Oct 2006
          • 455

          #79
          Some things I would like to see:
          A live footy match, and the reserves playing a few games in Melbourne too.
          Longmire stays strong and keeps Mills in the middle.
          We take games on and play attacking football. I reckon we will and when it goes right it will be scintillating. When it goes wrong, well, it won't be much good.
          Games into all the draftees of the past couple of seasons. I would expect McDonald, Campbell, Gulden, Stephens and Warner to feature early. Gould hopefully not too long after that.
          Continued development of McInerney and Blakey. I reckon they could make a terrific wing pair for a number of years.
          Buddy to give a few more highlight reel moments.
          Tom McCartin suddenly becoming the best key position defender in the game.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16732

            #80
            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            My bouyant prediction was made on the basis of negligible impact from Buddy.

            What is causing me to 2nd guess is the statue rule.
            It's clearly designed to increase scoring and game speed. But I'm wondering whether it will have and adverse effect on those sides that generate a larger amount of their attack from their backline, like us.
            The big unknown for me is the expanded game length (relative to last year) combined with the reduced rotations. Both the direct effect (ie will we see the teams with the bulk of their players neither young nor old score heavily late in quarters, or in the final quarter?) and the indirect effect via increased injuries.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #81
              Expecting about 5-8 wins this year. Too many developing players means no consistency. Not expecting that to improve this year. At least we will get games into Campbell, Gulden , Mcdonald , Warner, hopefully Gould.

              Continued development of Mccartin, Florent, Dawson, Mcinerney, Stephens, Blakey. Any of them going to the next level will help. Ling gets games, Mclean gets games. Melican better pull his finger out.

              Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom, Bell or Hayward but good if they can push for spots in the VFL and keep the pressure on the senior team. This has been a weakness of ours for years now , too many players not good enough getting games because theres no one better than them. Think that will change with the amount of young players we've got. Hopefully they're good enough.

              Liked what Longmire did with our ball movement last year, corridor corridor corridor. Who cares if it causes turnover, the pros outweigh the cons

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                #82
                Originally posted by TheBloods

                Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom
                *Sigh*

                This is just one of probably many reasons why you're not an AFL coach. They'll both be in the round one team.

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                • Mark26
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 1535

                  #83
                  Originally posted by TheBloods
                  Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom ...
                  I would think the across half forward and inside mid? Those two had a great game against GWS. I just don't get it. Were we watching different games?

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                  • DeadlyAkkuret
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 4547

                    #84
                    As I said in the other forum, Wicks could be just what we hoped Hayward would be. I’m not giving up on Hayward, I think Logan will help his game, but we desperately need a defensive forward with footy smarts and Wicks at this early stage seems to tick those boxes.

                    As for the season, conservatively I’d say 7-10 wins is a great step forward and if Buddy plays 2/3 of the year we could make the finals.


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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8149

                      #85
                      Originally posted by TheBloods

                      Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom, Bell or Hayward but good if they can push for spots in the VFL and keep the pressure on the senior team. This has been a weakness of ours for years now , too many players not good enough getting games because theres no one better than them.
                      Hilarious for its predictability. Now you've gone as far as insinuating Rowbottom is 'not good enough' to play AFL football. Utterly @@@@ing laughable - you've dug yourself such a deep hole you just have to keep on with the nonsene until its shown you truly are wearing no clothes.

                      Seeing your incessant fawning over Warner's good pre-season and how that has put him as a lock for Rd 1, what exactly would Wicks have had to have done in pre-season to impress enough to deserve a spot in round 1? Kick 7, have 31 possessions and make 19 tackles....

                      If you are going to suggest Warner will keep Rowbottom out of the team (someone well established as part of the best 22 last year) on the basis of a couple of good pre-season performances, then surely Wicks has claims over several others based on what was seen in pre-season as well.

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                      Originally posted by Mark26
                      I would think the across half forward and inside mid? Those two had a great game against GWS. I just don't get it. Were we watching different games?
                      Nope, we were just watching it without blinkers and an utter desperation to repeat something over and over and over in a hope of being able to say 'told you so' at some pre-defined point in the future.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        #86
                        Originally posted by TheBloods
                        Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom,
                        Opens up a couple of spots for Tom Derickx and Abe Davis.

                        Another premiership must be just around the corner.

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4150

                          #87
                          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                          In the captain's survey on the AFL site, we were one of only three teams, that none of the other captains thought would make the finals. The other two were Adelaide and North. Which I suppose is a dampener on expectations. Though I remain optimistic, that if we have a good run with injuries, we can play an attractive style of footy and make the eight.
                          Pre-season predictions don't mean anything. See the predictions for the 2003 season for an example (many tipped Sydney for the spoon, we ended up in a Preliminary Final).

                          Nearly half of the captains have tipped Collingwood to make the finals (8 out of 17). That is quite optimistic, considering how badly Collingwood butchered their list management last year. IMO Collingwood are more likely to finish bottom four than top eight.
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • TheBloods
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 2047

                            #88
                            Originally posted by mcs
                            Hilarious for its predictability. Now you've gone as far as insinuating Rowbottom is 'not good enough' to play AFL football. Utterly @@@@ing laughable - you've dug yourself such a deep hole you just have to keep on with the nonsene until its shown you truly are wearing no clothes.

                            Seeing your incessant fawning over Warner's good pre-season and how that has put him as a lock for Rd 1, what exactly would Wicks have had to have done in pre-season to impress enough to deserve a spot in round 1? Kick 7, have 31 possessions and make 19 tackles....

                            If you are going to suggest Warner will keep Rowbottom out of the team (someone well established as part of the best 22 last year) on the basis of a couple of good pre-season performances, then surely Wicks has claims over several others based on what was seen in pre-season as well.

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                            Nope, we were just watching it without blinkers and an utter desperation to repeat something over and over and over in a hope of being able to say 'told you so' at some pre-defined point in the future.
                            Just my OPINION. I dont see a place for Rowbottom right now. Who is he ahead of in the midfield ? Certainly not Joey, Parker or Mills. Hewett's the tagger. We need Blakey and Florents leg speed. Seventh place goes to .. ?? Unless you are planning on going with an EIGHT man midfield , theres only one spot in the side left for an inside mid. Two young mids RB and Warner. I dont give a rats ass what Rowbottom did last year. We are now in March 2021. Warner looks the form mid of the two atm. Rowbottom had a good game on Sunday but as what ? Barely touched it at the stoppages, failed to win it out of the centre, only made an impact in the forward 50 and collecting loose ball in general play. Maybe he gets a half forward spot, but whose he dislodging from the forward group ?? I'd like to see him in the VFL work on his midfield craft. Reading taps, winning clearances and most of all accumulating. these are things he needs to work on. Warner looked better in these areas which you need to be good in if you are to be an inside midfielder. With your response you make it seem like it is an outrageous assertion that a 3rd year player has things to work on and with competition for spots tightening it is best that these things are worked on in the VFL.

                            Wicks behind Papley and Gulden, doesnt have their class. Liked what I saw of young Errol, that snap around the body to hit Papley on the chest was textbook Errol. Saw him do that a lot when he played for the ES bulldogs. Cant see a world where Wicks is picked over Gulden.

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              #89
                              Hope we get as many games as possible into McDonald, Campbell and Gulden. All ooze quality and should be integral to our success over the next 10+ years.

                              I'd expect both Gulden and Campbell to debut round 1 and they should play for the majority of the season. Maybe McDonald will be held back a week or two but his very presence did so much to sort out our structure on the weekend. He too should play as many matches as possible this year.

                              Most here also see Rowbottom as an exciting young talent deservedly becoming an integral part of the team. To the one poster repeating ad nauseum their dislike for him - we get it. You're welcome to expressing an opinion but banging on about it on here doesn't do anything to boost the level of discourse on RWO.

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                              • DeadlyAkkuret
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 4547

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                Opens up a couple of spots for Tom Derickx and Abe Davis.

                                Another premiership must be just around the corner.
                                Abe Davis... just stop. I don’t need reminding of that time.


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