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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8492

    Originally posted by bloodspirit
    If that is right, does that mean our only list spot is for a Cat B rookie until Naismith is put on the long term injury list?
    Couldn't find the actual rules, but this table suggests that we can add to our 37, since a few other teams have 38 and Brisbane have 39.

    AFL Club Lists for 2022 - Draftguru

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Just up on the AFL website

      Main list - 36

      Cat A - 5 Fox, McAndrew, McLean, Taylor, Wicks

      Cat B - 2 BOC, Sheather

      So only one Cat A Rookie vacancy - McCartin? We can put Naismith on the LTI list to create another vacancy

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16737

        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        Couldn't find the actual rules, but this table suggests that we can add to our 37, since a few other teams have 38 and Brisbane have 39.

        AFL Club Lists for 2022 - Draftguru
        That table suggests the source isn't reliable.

        Clubs are allowed 36-38 on their senior list and 4-6 on their Cat A rookie list, but with an overall maximum of 42. They are then allowed up to two Cat B rookies in addition.

        Some further flexibility is provided by the inactive list. You can replace a player on the inactive list, but that means that the deactivated player can't play for the remainder of the season. So that's a way that Carlton could replace Liam Jones, for example.

        That the Draft Guru page lists Brisbane as having 39 players on the senior list and some clubs (eg Essendon) with 7 Cat A rookies indicates its not accurate and/or not up to date.

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          I spoke to Paddy and he told me he is definitely going to be added to the list in the SSP period, and that's why he skipped the ND. He also said he expects to be playing down back.

          Incidentally, I also confirmed that Sheather is a rookie - not sure if Cat A or Cat B (although it seems from the above that he's Cat B). What's interesting is that I have been informed that even Cat B rookies can be selected to play seniors. This came as a surprise to me so it would be great if anyone can confirm same.
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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            I spoke to Paddy and he told me he is definitely going to be added to the list in the SSP period, and that's why he skipped the ND. He also said he expects to be playing down back.

            Incidentally, I also confirmed that Sheather is a rookie - not sure if Cat A or Cat B (although it seems from the above that he's Cat B). What's interesting is that I have been informed that even Cat B rookies can be selected to play seniors. This came as a surprise to me so it would be great if anyone can confirm same.
            Good work bloodspirit. So our list is full except for LTI'ing Naismith if we need to

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8492

              Originally posted by liz
              That table suggests the source isn't reliable.

              Clubs are allowed 36-38 on their senior list and 4-6 on their Cat A rookie list, but with an overall maximum of 42. They are then allowed up to two Cat B rookies in addition.

              Some further flexibility is provided by the inactive list. You can replace a player on the inactive list, but that means that the deactivated player can't play for the remainder of the season. So that's a way that Carlton could replace Liam Jones, for example.

              That the Draft Guru page lists Brisbane as having 39 players on the senior list and some clubs (eg Essendon) with 7 Cat A rookies indicates its not accurate and/or not up to date.
              Hmm, shouldn't have put my faith in a guru.

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              • Aprilbr
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2016
                • 1803

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                I spoke to Paddy and he told me he is definitely going to be added to the list in the SSP period, and that's why he skipped the ND. He also said he expects to be playing down back.

                Incidentally, I also confirmed that Sheather is a rookie - not sure if Cat A or Cat B (although it seems from the above that he's Cat B). What's interesting is that I have been informed that even Cat B rookies can be selected to play seniors. This came as a surprise to me so it would be great if anyone can confirm same.
                Great scoop there Bloodspirit! Thanks for sharing with us. I'm very pleased for Paddy. I wonder if this means that Angry Anderson has missed out on being selected?
                Last edited by Aprilbr; 1 December 2021, 12:24 PM.

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                • lwjoyner
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 942

                  44 total allowed, so we have 43. we can rooke list anderson if naismith is sent to injury list which i think we shopuld do, no really sure if he will return to playing field ,. seems like he will be like
                  alex j. this assumes paddy is listed.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    Hmm, shouldn't have put my faith in a guru.
                    Watch this: Kumaré (2011) - IMDb.

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                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    Eye on the future: 10 draft prospects to watch in 2022 (afl.com.au) Lewis Hayes looks like one we should keep a close eye on. I especially note his December birthday.
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    It's not really a problem, but we will probably finish too high to be in line for a top 10 prospect.
                    Maybe, but with another handful of highly rated tall prospects hopefully we can get at least one of them (unless we spend our picks to trade a tall in): Who are the early top 10 players for the 2022 AFL Draft? (espn.com). Lemmey, Broadbent, Busslinger and Keeler all look potential top 10 at this early stage according to Chris Doerre.
                    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8492

                      Originally posted by bloodspirit
                      Watch this: Kumaré (2011) - IMDb.

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                      Maybe, but with another handful of highly rated tall prospects hopefully we can get at least one of them (unless we spend our picks to trade a tall in): Who are the early top 10 players for the 2022 AFL Draft? (espn.com). Lemmey, Broadbent, Busslinger and Keeler all look potential top 10 at this early stage according to Chris Doerre.
                      Looks interesting. On similar lines, the documentary, Wild Wild Country, is very much worth watching; if you haven't seen it.

                      On talls; I suspect that one reason why we didn't go tall this draft, was that Kinnear might already be keen on a few of next year's crop. Although, top ten may be out of our pick range. Then again, if we combine the pick tied to Melbourne and our first rounder, then that could be a way of trading into the pointy end of the draft.

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                      • Aprilbr
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1803

                        I came across this table on the AFL website. 70 players drafted this year and just 1 taken from all of NSW with 1 also from Qld. This is a little concerning to the national game development strategy. In comparison, my old school, St Pats Ballarat (regional city of 100,000 pop), had 3 players taken in the top 20! One school! Should alarm bells be ringing at AFL HQ?

                        The 2021 NAB AFL Draft by the numbers: Every player and their junior club

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                          Looks interesting. On similar lines, the documentary, Wild Wild Country, is very much worth watching; if you haven't seen it.
                          My eldest got me onto it , i remember it like it was yesterday , they were in my classes i used to teach back in the 80s decked in their orange crap . Not their fault , they didnt know what was going on , easily led

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                          • Aaron
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 805

                            Originally posted by 707
                            Just up on the AFL website

                            Main list - 36

                            Cat A - 5 Fox, McAndrew, McLean, Taylor, Wicks

                            Cat B - 2 BOC, Sheather

                            So only one Cat A Rookie vacancy - McCartin? We can put Naismith on the LTI list to create another vacancy
                            This is the link of this official list : "Every club's full AFL list after November 29 deadline"

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                            • Southern Swan15
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2010
                              • 203

                              When will we know if we are committed to paddy mccartin?

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                                I spoke to Paddy and he told me he is definitely going to be added to the list in the SSP period, and that's why he skipped the ND. He also said he expects to be playing down back.
                                Thanks very much bloodspirit. I feel much happier knowing that.

                                Originally posted by Aprilbr
                                I came across this table on the AFL website. 70 players drafted this year and just 1 taken from all of NSW with 1 also from Qld. This is a little concerning to the national game development strategy. In comparison, my old school, St Pats Ballarat (regional city of 100,000 pop), had 3 players taken in the top 20! One school! Should alarm bells be ringing at AFL HQ?
                                For the good of the game, it concerns me too. or the good of the Swans, I think a year without a high profile draftee would be a good thing for retaining our concessions. As to the AFL, they will of course do nothing substansive. Given their woefull efforts prior to the foundation of the Academy, does it matter? I think the best option would be for them to stay out of the Swans way.

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