2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Bangalore Swans]

Is this the most critical 4 hours in Reid’s career?

[i'm-uninformed2]

Is this the most critical 4 hours in Reid’s career?

I'd argue there was two and a bit hours in September 2012 that surpass it, but get your point

[Bangalore Swans]

I'd argue there was two and a bit hours in September 2012 that surpass it, but get your point

Yep. That mark from the kick out late in the 4th quarter was a much valued contribution.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Gardiner saying on trade radio that last week's offer was much worse than pick 17 due to adverse other pick swaps involved.

In other words, Adelaide never negotiated in good faith, because they didn't have to, because they had the PSD threat, and a player who stabbed us in the back on the way out.

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Yep. That mark from the kick out late in the 4th quarter was a much valued contribution.

Or the goal on the run from 50m at the end of the dream passage of play started by Alex Johnson (cry) in the 2nd quarter

[Bangalore Swans]

If we do get Ladhams, should the Swans try and do a deal with St Kilda for McLean?

Ladhams puts McLean and Amarty further down the depth list for key forwards.

[mcs]

Here is exactly what Charlie said about Adelaide's initial offer last week:

."The final offer Sydney accepted was “significantly better” than what the Crows initially offered early last week.
“In terms of the negotiations, what I can say is the deal that was tabled on Tuesday last week involving pick 17 was not as good a deal as we accepted last night,” Gardiner said.
“It involved a slide of picks in this year’s draft together with future selections given up in next year’s draft that would have compromised not only this year, but next year."

Sounds like Adelaide did nothing but put straw men offers up. No suprises there.

[0918330512]

Is this the most critical 4 hours in Reid’s career?

I'd argue there was two and a bit hours in September 2012 that surpass it, but get your point

I’d argue that most here have been critical of Reid’s career for the last 4 years, not 4 hours

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If we do get Ladhams, should the Swans try and do a deal with St Kilda for McLean?

WTAF, put up a player that just re-signed?!

Ladhams puts McLean and Amarty further down the depth list for key forwards.

Or, both Amartey and McLean could diversify their roles to differ from Ladhams, considering neither Joel nor Hayden are or will be first string ruckmen, and are thus not likely competing for the same position as Ladhams.

[Roadrunner]

If we do get Ladhams, should the Swans try and do a deal with St Kilda for McLean?

Ladhams puts McLean and Amarty further down the depth list for key forwards.

Not on your sweet bippy, Bangalore! We need all the tall timber we can get- competition plus cover for injuries.
Why trade McLean, who is more than useful and with upside?

[bloodspirit]

The most critical hours of Sam Reid's career would surely have been on draft night 2009!

[dejavoodoo44]

The AFL site strangely reported that the Giants were interested in sending pick 13 to Hawthorn, in exchange for Luke Breust?? Not long after, they claimed that the deal was off, because Breust wants to stay at Hawthorn. Personally, I suspect that they got the story very wrong? I mean: pick 13 for a 30 year old small forward?

However, if the Giants are actually that desperate to increase their small forward stocks, then perhaps they'd be interested in Ronke or Taylor?

[Roadrunner]

Is Port holding up the Ladhams deal? Nearly 4 o’clock, surely we won’t bend over! KB and team- we’re relying on you to get it done!

[Markwebbos]

The AFL site strangely reported that the Giants were interested in sending pick 13 to Hawthorn, in exchange for Luke Breust?? Not long after, they claimed that the deal was off, because Breust wants to stay at Hawthorn. Personally, I suspect that they got the story very wrong? I mean: pick 13 for a 30 year old small forward?

However, if the Giants are actually that desperate to increase their small forward stocks, then perhaps they'd be interested in Ronke or Taylor?

I think there is a catch to these Hawthorn deals, which is that they'd be buying the pick by paying the player's entire salary for next year or even beyond. I wonder if the Giants think they can get a Breust or Wingard for free. Offload Bobby Hill for a future second round pick and use that and the saved $$ to have another crack at Lobb. I believe the sticking point was that the Giants couldn't offer him enough money or enough $$ for long enough. Future 2nd rounder was the offer for Lobb, so they could turn Hill into Lobb and Breust by sending pick 13 to the Hawks.

[Roadrunner]

The AFL site strangely reported that the Giants were interested in sending pick 13 to Hawthorn, in exchange for Luke Breust?? Not long after, they claimed that the deal was off, because Breust wants to stay at Hawthorn. Personally, I suspect that they got the story very wrong? I mean: pick 13 for a 30 year old small forward?

However, if the Giants are actually that desperate to increase their small forward stocks, then perhaps they'd be interested in Ronke or Taylor?

Deja, I’ll personally drive Ronke to the Giants (well, a bit hard at present as I’m in Melbourne) but want to keep Squizzy for another year.

[dejavoodoo44]

I think there is a catch to these Hawthorn deals, which is that they'd be buying the pick by paying the player's entire salary for next year or even beyond. I wonder if the Giants think they can get a Breust or Wingard for free. Offload Bobby Hill for a future second round pick and use that and the saved $$ to have another crack at Lobb. I believe the sticking point was that the Giants couldn't offer him enough money or enough $$ for long enough. Future 2nd rounder was the offer for Lobb, so they could turn Hill into Lobb and Breust by sending pick 13 to the Hawks.

Yes, that does sound quite Hawthorn-ish or Kennett-ish. It also sounds quite Kennett-ish, to not sound out the player involved beforehand.

[Markwebbos]

Yes, that does sound quite Hawthorn-ish or Kennett-ish. It also sounds quite Kennett-ish, to not sound out the player involved beforehand.

It could be a calculated move by the Giants to create disharmony at the Hawks