2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • BRISWAN
    Warming the Bench
    • Aug 2005
    • 304

    HAVE PATIENCE

    Originally posted by The Runner
    Ollie is one of our most consistent performers this year and probably top 3 in the BnF count currently.
    He's increased his quality of disposals and is getting back to help out in defence regularly. Given he's 22, he is trending very nicely for a player that turned up rather light in stature. I don't think your assessment of him is even close to accurate.
    PEOPLE.....Sucess comes over time, not instantly.

    Those who know best will guide us there....eventually.

    Ollie is but one example of where we are headed...eventually.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4185

      Originally posted by Roadrunner
      Ollie has been more consistent this year and has great elusive skills. In our best 22 for sure and a definite must keep at this stage. Also think there is still a lot of upside with Ollie: needs work on his distribution but goal kicking is elite.
      Florent looks settled in the club and maturing as a leader.

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4033

        Originally posted by Roadrunner
        Agreed pretty much. We need tall timber so keep Reid (reduced money) and Brand.

        Need to play COR, Ling and Gould for a few games to decide. If we must, let Ding Dong and Foxy go. Not sure yet about Wicks-another 5-6 games to show a bit more than he has.

        We have 3 really tough games coming up, after which we need to rotate a fair bit to assess some of these players as we need to know a bit more in order to decide to trade or delist. Tough job for our list managers!
        Reid has become a liability physically. On ability, he would stay but he is unavailable far too often. Coach loves him but surely it's time.

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          Originally posted by Blood Fever
          Reid has become a liability physically. On ability, he would stay but he is unavailable far too often. Coach loves him but surely it's time.
          I think both Amartey and McLean have shown enough to suggest we only give Reid another contract strictly on the club's terms. At this stage, 12 month contracts on minimal money. If he can do better elsewhere, good luck to him.

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          • Roadrunner
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2018
            • 1421

            Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
            I think both Amartey and McLean have shown enough to suggest we only give Reid another contract strictly on the club's terms. At this stage, 12 month contracts on minimal money. If he can do better elsewhere, good luck to him.
            We may only get half a season from Reid from here on. But he is still value a so his contract should reflect this. Amartey and McLean are still raw and it helps to have Sam around. I don’t want to lose him, despite his limitations.

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            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              I didn't realise how much George Hewett was shopped around last year. And it sounds like the Swans will want to get him off the list this year if they can.
              There's been several occasions this year when I have been puzzled about the non-use of George as a stopper. Not just at the start of games, but more when things were going wrong and we were facing defeat. Against Freo, when Fyfe moved into the middle and began to take us apart, then against the Hawks Mitchell was a problem and Horse went with other options to curb his influence.
              I'm reminded of what Liz said about Clarkson not using Buddy in his last year because they were planning for a post-Franklin club.

              Originally posted by Roadrunner
              Ollie has been more consistent this year and has great elusive skills. In our best 22 for sure and a definite must keep at this stage. Also think there is still a lot of upside with Ollie: needs work on his distribution but goal kicking is elite.
              He is also our very best rover, reads taps extremely well.
              Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 23 June 2021, 07:51 AM.

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4033

                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                I think both Amartey and McLean have shown enough to suggest we only give Reid another contract strictly on the club's terms. At this stage, 12 month contracts on minimal money. If he can do better elsewhere, good luck to him.
                No other club would touch him given his history. Sadly both he and his brother are too physically fragile. With the money we've paid him and with his history of unavailability, if he stays, he should play for free!

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                  There's been several occasions this year when I have been puzzled about the non-use of George as a stopper.
                  I think we would like George as a midfield tagger, but that would mean moving someone out of the midfield. Mills has effectively replaced George in the midfield. We are trying George as a defender, but he doesn't have anything close to Mills' ability as a defender. It's a bit of a dilemma with what to do with George, despite him being a very good players. There's a bit of a glut of inside mids in the AFL at the moment.

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    I think we would like George as a midfield tagger, but that would mean moving someone out of the midfield. Mills has effectively replaced George in the midfield. We are trying George as a defender, but he doesn't have anything close to Mills' ability as a defender. It's a bit of a dilemma with what to do with George, despite him being a very good players. There's a bit of a glut of inside mids in the AFL at the moment.
                    George is a good player but seems the odd one out. Port have Rockliff to retire, could be a good trade for Hayes or even Ladhams.

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                    • Aprilbr
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 1803

                      I don't think George would be a massive loss to us. He is of very limited trade value as not a star by any measure just a solid performer. As a restricted free agent, we would only get a second or third round pick in return. This is because he will not command the big contract that would enable a better pick than this.

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                      • longmile
                        Crumber
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3350

                        I'd have Hewett in the midfield as a genuine tagger - he is good enough at it that he wins his own footy, and then rotate Parker and Kennedy through the forward line, so at any time only one of them is in the midfield with Hewett and Mills

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4033

                          Originally posted by longmile
                          I'd have Hewett in the midfield as a genuine tagger - he is good enough at it that he wins his own footy, and then rotate Parker and Kennedy through the forward line, so at any time only one of them is in the midfield with Hewett and Mills
                          I would keep him. Kennedy probably has one year left and Parker is approaching 30 as well. Proven hard nut inside mid fielder.

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                          • Ralph Dawg
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 1729

                            Originally posted by longmile
                            I'd have Hewett in the midfield as a genuine tagger - he is good enough at it that he wins his own footy, and then rotate Parker and Kennedy through the forward line, so at any time only one of them is in the midfield with Hewett and Mills
                            That all sounds fine but he's dropped off our midfield rotation. Parker and JPK are locks for our inside positions. So who of Mills, Warner, Rowbotton and even Ollie misses out for Hewett. And don't forget Stephens, who was drafted as a hybrid inside / outside midfielder. If JPK and Parker played forward more, it would be as medium forwards, which is a crowded space already with Heeney, Wilbur and Blakey as our options there. Even as a tagger, Horse has shown he more favours Rowbotton for this role. So you can see why Hewett was shipped around and likely to be again as there really isn't any spot for him in the midfield in the opinion of Horse.

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              Originally posted by longmile
                              I'd have Hewett in the midfield as a genuine tagger - he is good enough at it that he wins his own footy, and then rotate Parker and Kennedy through the forward line, so at any time only one of them is in the midfield with Hewett and Mills
                              GW$ use de Boer as a tagger starting outside the centre square and that seemed to work ok against Walsh. I could see him playing that sort of role.

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                              • TheBloods
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Feb 2020
                                • 2047

                                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                                That all sounds fine but he's dropped off our midfield rotation. Parker and JPK are locks for our inside positions. So who of Mills, Warner, Rowbotton and even Ollie misses out for Hewett. And don't forget Stephens, who was drafted as a hybrid inside / outside midfielder. If JPK and Parker played forward more, it would be as medium forwards, which is a crowded space already with Heeney, Wilbur and Blakey as our options there. Even as a tagger, Horse has shown he more favours Rowbotton for this role. So you can see why Hewett was shipped around and likely to be again as there really isn't any spot for him in the midfield in the opinion of Horse.
                                Yes he is a fine player but fine players wont help us get up the ladder we need quality players and trading hewett can help us secure that

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