2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[NeonBible]

Thrilled about Dawson! What a fantastic player he is. So young too - just 24. Likely has more levels to go to - which is a terrifying but exciting thought!

I won't be nervous anymore once Luke Parker signs on the dotted line!! He is our most important player! Captain! Best player! For all the chatter about our brilliant batch of young Swans, it will be Parker who is the runaway winner of the best and fairest in a year in which we went from 16th to top 6! Get it done please Swannies

[stevoswan]

Fingers crossed - I have thought Dawson was probably the least likely to leave - exactly for the reason that he reputed to be signing a 2 year extension. Gets him to free agency, at a club seemingly on the rise towards premiership contention. Then he will either be able to demand a big contract from the Swans (if his form continues as good as it is), or to have good currency on the market to demand big $$$.

By the time Dawson's 'new deal' ends we will have Buddy's contract off our books.....which is probably why he just went for two years, if that duration indeed turns out to be the case.

Last part of this quote from the article is of interest.

"When Dawson’s deal becomes official, it will be on a less substantial contract than what he would have commanded elsewhere.

Swans officials have always maintained he would not leave, however they aren’t as categoric about Dylan Stephens and George Hewett."

I'd like to keep both but I am less bullish on Stephens. George is a gun and very versatile in what midfield roll he can play so I'd like to see him stay. Not so confident now as I was when we drafted Stephens that he is a part of our long term future.

[Bangalore Swans]

This is great news about Dawson. It has made my day! Now we just have to re-sign Parker and I will be very happy. I can live with losing Stephens and George despite my preference for keeping them both.

I’m changing my position on Stephens. I can’t let that non real attempt at a tackle in the final quarter go. Some people are critical on Rowbottom, but James will always put his body on the line and take that physical punishment required to play AFL football.

Stephens was a pick 5. His stock value is falling faster than Enron.

Swans need to take that Crows future 2nd round pick and move on. Failure to trade Stephens now may end with the Stephens and Enron stories resembling each other.

[joeykanga]

I’m changing my position on Stephens. I can’t let that non real attempt at a tackle in the final quarter go. Some people are critical on Rowbottom, but James will always put his body on the line and take that physical punishment required to play AFL football.

Stephens was a pick 5. His stock value is falling faster than Enron.

Swans need to take that Crows future 2nd round pick and move on. Failure to trade Stephens now may end with the Stephens and Enron stories resembling each other.

You’re perhaps overreacting a tad ..Stephens future thankfully is not related to how you or the Bloods think he let You down in one game that’s all …just one game
Seriously that’s all it takes for you
Surely it must have been hard playing in that team with everyone being down and the Saints being so up for it on the weekend
I didn’t like the missed tackle but that didn’t lose us the gane ..it might have seemed to have come at a pivotal time and it would have been good if he’d nailed it but there were so many down performances all through the squad
Hopefully what happens is that he gets to
work on those deficiencies , builds his body up like Ludwig said ..if he’s here next year is because he applies himself from the Swans perspective and he sees a future in a promising team from his perspective..

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A player is not a stock first and then a player
No it’s not Enron

[Ludwig]

I’m changing my position on Stephens. I can’t let that non real attempt at a tackle in the final quarter go. Some people are critical on Rowbottom, but James will always put his body on the line and take that physical punishment required to play AFL football.

Stephens was a pick 5. His stock value is falling faster than Enron.

Swans need to take that Crows future 2nd round pick and move on. Failure to trade Stephens now may end with the Stephens and Enron stories resembling each other.

Didn't Enron go bankrupt 20 years ago? Maybe you should buy a more recent newspaper, like maybe from around 2015, and try to stay a little bit more current.

Our attitude toward players on here resembles more the ups, downs and ups of Bitcoin.

I think Stephens is due for a bounce up, although I'm not predicting when. Not even to the closest year.

[TheBloods]

I’m changing my position on Stephens. I can’t let that non real attempt at a tackle in the final quarter go.

Well let it go . He is a skinny winger , if you hung every player for poor tackling attempts Blakey and Jmac would be nowhere near the senior side

[Aprilbr]

I'm not totally jumping off the Stephens train like BS. But he has a lot to learn and improvement needed. I expect him to be dropped this week for good reason.

[joeykanga]

Well let it go . He is a skinny winger , if you hung every player for poor tackling attempts Blakey and Jmac would be nowhere near the senior side

It’s clear Blakey is skinny but I think using Blakey as an example as far as tackling doesn’t resonate at the moment

Since he’s come back to the side I feel like his tackling has been as solid if not more so than far stronger built teammates ..he invariably wraps people up ball and all and has no fear for his lightweight body..

[TheBloods]

It’s clear Blakey is skinny but I think using Blakey as an example as far as tackling doesn’t resonate at the moment

Since he’s come back to the side I feel like his tackling has been as solid if not more so than far stronger built teammates ..he invariably wraps people up ball and all and has no fear for his lightweight body..

No he bounces off them like they're a springboard , no shame hes not built enough and its not his role . Same as Jmac, they slide right off him . They put their head over it when it matters and thats all that counts but i wouldnt be relying on them to stick a tackle

[joeykanga]

No he bounces off them like they're a springboard , no shame hes not built enough and its not his role . Same as Jmac, they slide right off him . They put their head over it when it matters and thats all that counts but i wouldnt be relying on them to stick a tackle

I don’t agree with you …since he’s been back in the side he’s mostly stuck those tackles

[Bangalore Swans]

It’s clear Blakey is skinny but I think using Blakey as an example as far as tackling doesn’t resonate at the moment

Since he’s come back to the side I feel like his tackling has been as solid if not more so than far stronger built teammates ..he invariably wraps people up ball and all and has no fear for his lightweight body..

Have you ever seen an Academy player miss tackles front on like Stephens? When Heeney, Mills, Foote, Brandon Jack, Blakey and Wicks were in their 2nd years they nailed their tackles and they wanted the physical contact of tackles. Most of these guys have played some kind of Rugby and have had some experience in tackling front on. Heeney was in the Academy with Tommy Turbo. He had to be tough.

Maybe Stephens never had the same tackling experience as the academy boys.

J-Mac can improve his tackling. His tackling is good while chasing down from behind or from the side.

Although Rowbottom has been heavily critiqued you just know that he will never hesitate to put his body on the line to tackle.

With Stephens he also got baulked a few times on the mark. Is he doing his film study on the opposition tricks.

He’s also not hitting through the ball with his kicking. He’s got a bigger confidence problem than Maverick from Top Gun.

[mcs]

I don’t agree with you …since he’s been back in the side he’s mostly stuck those tackles

I agree Joey. Still has a lot of work to do, but I think he has improved in that space in recent weeks as well. Still a long way to go, but his tackling has definitely improved.

[joeykanga]

Have you ever seen an Academy player miss tackles front on like Stephens? When Heeney, Mills, Foote, Brandon Jack, Blakey and Wicks were in their 2nd years they nailed their tackles and they wanted the physical contact of tackles. Most of these guys have played some kind of Rugby and have had some experience in tackling front on. Heeney was in the Academy with Tommy Turbo. He had to be tough.

Maybe Stephens never had the same tackling experience as the academy boys.

J-Mac can improve his tackling. His tackling is good while chasing down from behind or from the side.

Although Rowbottom has been heavily critiqued you just know that he will never hesitate to put his body on the line to tackle.

With Stephens he also got baulked a few times on the mark. Is he doing his film study on the opposition tricks.

He’s also not hitting through the ball with his kicking. He’s got a bigger confidence problem than Maverick from Top Gun.

You really do change like the wind just like that

[joeykanga]

You have polar opposite opinions, i can only assume based on one match because you didn’t mention the tacking when you celebrated his inclusion last week prior to the match

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Blakey couldn’t tackle before his spell ..and he’s improved no end since so there’s hope

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Blakey couldn’t tackle before his spell ..and he’s improved no end since so there’s hope

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I think you are right about the confidence though and the fact that a rugby background experience wise and mentally is a great base to start with
But why so confident one week and then throwing out the baby with the bath water the next

[Agent 86]

I don’t agree with you …since he’s been back in the side he’s mostly stuck those tackles

Yes. The Lizard can tackle. Misses a few, but generally I reckon he likes nailing them.