Round 2 (the Buddy beauty round): the other games.

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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8727

    General footy chat Round 2 (the Buddy beauty round): the other games.

    While most of us will be obsessing over how Buddy goes on Saturday, there are other games, starting off tonight with Collingwood v Carlton. Collingwood are very slight favourites, but I think that Carlton should be favourites, as they were still in with a chance, until very late, against Richmond; while Collingwood never really looked like beating the Bulldogs.

    Tomorrow night will see one of the premiership favourites, either Geelong or Brisbane, get into a bit of trouble, by going 0-2. Assuming that it's not a draw.

    A couple of the Sunday games look they could be good contests: Bulldogs v Eagles and Dockers v Giants.
  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #2
    Carlton have another year of mediocrity ahead of them.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4231

      #3
      Originally posted by barry
      Carlton have another year of mediocrity ahead of them.
      I'd be surprised if Teague lasts the season.

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      • Markwebbos
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        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        #4
        Originally posted by MattW
        I'd be surprised if Teague lasts the season.
        +1 train is going off the rails

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
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          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          #5
          Ninth season in a row where Carlton have started 0-2 or worse. Staggering.


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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2093

            #6
            Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
            Ninth season in a row where Carlton have started 0-2 or worse. Staggering.


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            Staggering, yes. Highly enjoyable? Absolutely!! Never forget how Carlton hovered over us and waited for us to die in the 90s. May they forever dwell near the foot of the ladder.

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            • dejavoodoo44
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              • Apr 2015
              • 8727

              #7
              Originally posted by Sandridge
              Staggering, yes. Highly enjoyable? Absolutely!! Never forget how Carlton hovered over us and waited for us to die in the 90s. May they forever dwell near the foot of the ladder.
              They've possibly never fully recovered from the presidency of John Elliott. Left almost twenty years ago, with the club facing a range of sanctions and their reputation in tatters, and haven't been a genuine premiership contender since then.

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #8
                Originally posted by barry
                Carlton have another year of mediocrity ahead of them.
                I did the stupid thing and tipped them in the footy tips, grrrr

                One can only hope their mediocrity continues now this season

                Fascinating game tonight, at the cattery but Cats have significant outs, another tipping nightmare for me

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                • neilfws
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1834

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MattW
                  I'd be surprised if Teague lasts the season.
                  Certainly a good chance it's his last, if they continue like this.

                  Watched the game against my better judgement. Same old every season. A couple of nice goals at least.

                  More hopeful for tonight's game, we'll see if the Lions can bounce back.

                  But most excited about Saturday of course, when I'll be at the SCG for the first time since the end of season 2019. Can't wait.

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                  • Velour&Ruffles
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 903

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sandridge
                    Staggering, yes. Highly enjoyable? Absolutely!! Never forget how Carlton hovered over us and waited for us to die in the 90s. May they forever dwell near the foot of the ladder.
                    +1. So true.
                    I still love the fact that my kids view the Swans as a perennially successful club and the Blues as perennial cellar-dwellers. How the wheel has turned.
                    My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                      +1. So true.
                      I still love the fact that my kids view the Swans as a perennially successful club and the Blues as perennial cellar-dwellers. How the wheel has turned.
                      Yep @@@@ the blues lol. Long may they be mediocre - either really really @@@@e, or just mediocre enough to think they will finally get somewhere, but then invariably (and often hilariously) go nowhere.... they deserve all they get for their kicking of us when we were down in the 90s, and planning to divide up our carcass.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • Sandridge
                        Outer wing, Lake Oval
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2093

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mcs
                        Yep @@@@ the blues lol. Long may they be mediocre - either really really @@@@e, or just mediocre enough to think they will finally get somewhere, but then invariably (and often hilariously) go nowhere.... they deserve all they get for their kicking of us when we were down in the 90s, and planning to divide up our carcass.
                        Great to see RWOers maintaining the rage!!

                        For anyone under the age of 30 who might not be aware of the situation, read this:

                        On This Day: Swans survive.... Just

                        I think this article slightly underplays Carlton's role in our near demise. Let's hope they continue to fail - they deserve to!

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4226

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MattW
                          I'd be surprised if Teague lasts the season.
                          TO be fair, Carlton started with a game against the current premiers, followed by a game against another of last year's finalists, a side that they have only beaten twice in the previous eight seasons. Their next two games are against Fremantle and Gold Coast, two sides about equal to them in strength. If they lose both of those as well, then is the time to talk seriously about their future. If they win both, a 2-2 start isn't too bad. I expect they will be 1-3 after four rounds.

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                          Originally posted by Sandridge
                          Great to see RWOers maintaining the rage!!

                          For anyone under the age of 30 who might not be aware of the situation, read this:

                          On This Day: Swans survive.... Just

                          I think this article slightly underplays Carlton's role in our near demise. Let's hope they continue to fail - they deserve to!
                          Also don't forget Collingwood's role in saving the club. Since then, I have enjoyed it every time Collingwood beats Carlton.
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            They've possibly never fully recovered from the presidency of John Elliott. Left almost twenty years ago, with the club facing a range of sanctions and their reputation in tatters, and haven't been a genuine premiership contender since then.
                            They have lost their identity. They were the blue-bloods. Somewhat ironic since they come from a ethnic working class suburb, but I think it was probably a 1960's to 1990's takeover by money'ed individuals like John Elliot.
                            Based on that level of management, they were successful because they could buy players above what others could, and only very popular working class teams like Collingwood had the sheer weight of numbers to compete.
                            But then, the modern era of salary caps and drafts, they couldnt do that and the money'ed high profile backers left.

                            Those that still run the club get pressure to "return to the glory days", when the known and practiced path to the glory days is blocked. They are stuck, and therefore never go anywhere. In the past 10 years they have had to high quality coaches in Malthouse and Ratten, and its not done any good. Theyve had draft picks, and raided GWS's surplus, and its not done any good.

                            They arent any good because that dont stand for anything. No one "wants to go to Carlton" for anything other than cash, and cash has a salary cap limit.

                            Also, their fan base is aging, and a flight risk because of their changing brand. I cant think of anyone who would have wanted to join Carlton in the last 20 years. Thats a big demographic gap.

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                            • Aprilbr
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 1803

                              #15
                              I was at the Carlton v Pies game last night. It seemed like there were more Blues supporters than Magpie supporters which surprised me. It was an open game and Carlton were good at times. The Pies' better efficiency going forward was the difference. Like others here, I will never forget how opportunistic Carlton were in trying to replace us in Sydney and in poaching our best players at the time.

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