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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8576

    Originally posted by TheBloods
    Jfc that fwd line is too tall. We will get killed at ground level none are strong marks, McLean is still green. Kick inside 50 will have to be precise, wouldnt be giving that responsibility to Cunningham, Rowbottom or Clarke.
    McLean might be green but he is a strong mark. He was clunking them last week and he uses his body strength well. Sinkers can clunk them too, on his day. Have some faith TB....and rediscover optimism.

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    • NeonBible
      Warming the Bench
      • Mar 2021
      • 280

      TB, nothing endears a player to a coach quite like old fashioned hard work and pressure! How often does Horse Longmire say it in his pressers?? It starts with the pressure in and around the contest! Chasing, tackling, coralling, smothering .. it all adds up!! You might not think highly of Rowbottom or Wicks but if you want to know why they get games every week their pressure acts might tell you!
      RB has played 31 games and in 15 of those hes been in the top 3 swans for pressure acts. Almost half his games hes been a leader in the pressure category. (Hes been the outright leader in 8 of those games, which is staggering and puts holes in your "lazy" theory!!)
      Wicks' numbers are just as impressive - 14 games, and hes been in top 3 swans for pressure acts in 7 of them. Thats half!
      Btw these are young cygnets leading in an area that would typically be led by onfield leaders and bulls like Joey, Parks and Mills!

      Against Geelong, young Dylan only had 7 pressure acts, which had him in the bottom 3 players in our team (not including the medical sub Clarke). In his 10 games so far he has been in the bottom 5 in FOUR of his matches. He has had 2 where hes been top 3 but clearly hes not producing that level on a weekly basis like the coaches need to see to have confidence to pick him every week. This is not to say he isnt a hard worker, but its a sign he might be struggling to turn that hard work into meaningful pressure on the opposition. It will come for him im sure of it but in the mean time its an area that he can improve on to earn more faith from the coaches!

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4235

        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
        Meant to rain in Melbourne this evening too so seems very tall for wet weather footy


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        • Bangalore Swans
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Mar 2021
          • 1049

          Originally posted by TheBloods
          How some keep getting games but Stephens gets dropped at the first chance ill never understand.
          I agree. I would have preferred his run and agility instead of Sinclair.

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          • Wardy
            The old Boiler!
            • Sep 2003
            • 6676

            Well if it’s meant to rain, I hope they all packed the long stop boots.
            I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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            • Matty10
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 1331

              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
              Meant to rain in Melbourne this evening too so seems very tall for wet weather footy
              I have no faith in the certainty of Melbourne weather (or anyone’s ability to predict it) to select a team based on it.

              Having said that, it does look a little odd with Sinclair named on a half forward flank. But if Reid was fit I imagine he would take the place of Sinclair or McLean (which still has us with the same number of talls). We’re not that top heavy on balance.

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1813

                I've noticed Heeney is listed out with ankle injury rather than rested or managed. Does anyone know the extent of the injury & whether if it's the same ankle he had operated on? Noticed during last week's game they mentioned his ankle was being looked at when he came off.

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                • AB Swannie
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 1579

                  Originally posted by NeonBible
                  TB, nothing endears a player to a coach quite like old fashioned hard work and pressure! How often does Horse Longmire say it in his pressers?? It starts with the pressure in and around the contest! Chasing, tackling, coralling, smothering .. it all adds up!! You might not think highly of Rowbottom or Wicks but if you want to know why they get games every week their pressure acts might tell you!
                  RB has played 31 games and in 15 of those hes been in the top 3 swans for pressure acts. Almost half his games hes been a leader in the pressure category. (Hes been the outright leader in 8 of those games, which is staggering and puts holes in your "lazy" theory!!)
                  Wicks' numbers are just as impressive - 14 games, and hes been in top 3 swans for pressure acts in 7 of them. Thats half!
                  Btw these are young cygnets leading in an area that would typically be led by onfield leaders and bulls like Joey, Parks and Mills!

                  Against Geelong, young Dylan only had 7 pressure acts, which had him in the bottom 3 players in our team (not including the medical sub Clarke). In his 10 games so far he has been in the bottom 5 in FOUR of his matches. He has had 2 where hes been top 3 but clearly hes not producing that level on a weekly basis like the coaches need to see to have confidence to pick him every week. This is not to say he isnt a hard worker, but its a sign he might be struggling to turn that hard work into meaningful pressure on the opposition. It will come for him im sure of it but in the mean time its an area that he can improve on to earn more faith from the coaches!
                  Thanks for this info. I’m certain that there is so much more information that the coaches use within a game and in review. The stats would be amazing. I also imagine that there is so much video analysis from different angles.

                  Out of interest, where did you find these pressure acts data?

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                  • NeonBible
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 280

                    Originally posted by AB Swannie
                    Thanks for this info. I’m certain that there is so much more information that the coaches use within a game and in review. The stats would be amazing. I also imagine that there is so much video analysis from different angles.

                    Out of interest, where did you find these pressure acts data?
                    Hi AB Swannie, they are on the AFL app!

                    There would certainly be a multitude of factors coaches would look at but its certain that pressure would be a major one, its a strong indication of a players ability to work just as hard without the ball as they do with it.

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Originally posted by NeonBible
                      TB, nothing endears a player to a coach quite like old fashioned hard work and pressure! How often does Horse Longmire say it in his pressers?? It starts with the pressure in and around the contest! Chasing, tackling, coralling, smothering .. it all adds up!! You might not think highly of Rowbottom or Wicks but if you want to know why they get games every week their pressure acts might tell you!
                      RB has played 31 games and in 15 of those hes been in the top 3 swans for pressure acts. Almost half his games hes been a leader in the pressure category. (Hes been the outright leader in 8 of those games, which is staggering and puts holes in your "lazy" theory!!)
                      Wicks' numbers are just as impressive - 14 games, and hes been in top 3 swans for pressure acts in 7 of them. Thats half!
                      Btw these are young cygnets leading in an area that would typically be led by onfield leaders and bulls like Joey, Parks and Mills!

                      Against Geelong, young Dylan only had 7 pressure acts, which had him in the bottom 3 players in our team (not including the medical sub Clarke). In his 10 games so far he has been in the bottom 5 in FOUR of his matches. He has had 2 where hes been top 3 but clearly hes not producing that level on a weekly basis like the coaches need to see to have confidence to pick him every week. This is not to say he isnt a hard worker, but its a sign he might be struggling to turn that hard work into meaningful pressure on the opposition. It will come for him im sure of it but in the mean time its an area that he can improve on to earn more faith from the coaches!
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