Round 23 v Gold Coast Suns Home Game at Marvel

[goswannies]

I don’t think the Swans should be able to sub out Mills.

He came into the game with a pre existing injury. Why should a player be allowed to be subed out with a pre-existing injury he took into the game?

So, according to your view on the sub issue, when Alex Johnson did his 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd ACL, and went off, the sub couldn’t be activated to replace him?

If we sign Paddy McCartin at seasons end, if he suffers another concussion in a game, he can’t be subbed off?

If Hickey sustains a knee injury during the finals, he can’t be subbed off?

They are all far more established and more significant pre-exisiting injuries than Mills.

[Bangalore Swans]

[QUOTE=goswannies;828637]So, according to your view on the sub issue, when Alex Johnson did his 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd ACL, and went off, the sub couldn’t be activated to replace him?

If we sign Paddy McCartin at seasons end, if he suffers another concussion in a game, he can’t be subbed off?

If Hickey sustains a knee injury during the finals, he can’t be subbed off?

They are all far more established and more significant pre-exisiting injuries than Mills.[/QUOT

Goswannies are you the poster who posts brilliantly on medical matters?

Do you work in the medical field?

If you are a medical expert, I will be deferring to your opinion.

[goswannies]

Need people’s opinion on these three questions:

1) Do people feel that the Swans used the Suns game to give Mills a match simulation fitness test?

You asked. This this a ridiculous suggestion. Match simulation is exactly that: simulated conditions (as opposed to match day). Fitness tests are precisely that. Specific tests that stress or challenge particular elements to determine the likeliness of whether that element might (or might not) reasonable fail during actual match conditions.
These are addressed at training, or specific pre-match sessions.

2) Do people feel that the Suns organisation was disrespected by the Swans using the Suns game as an opportunity to use a playing spot to conduct a match simulation fitness test for Mills? It was like the Suns didn’t matter and they could afford to conduct the match simulation fitness test.

You asked. Another preposterous suggestion. I would suspect most, if not all, clubs play to win. However, every club is entitled to use the game time in whichever way it pleases. This could be getting game time into underdone players, trialling new game plan strategies, playing players in unaccustomed positions. The point is, it had nothing to do with disrespecting the opposition. It is about using the 120 minutes to achieve your objectives for the greater good of your club.

3) Is using the medical sub position on a player with a suspected pre existing injury using the medical sub position in the right spirit.

These are all questions where I’m looking for many varied opinions.

You asked. I have addressed this with examples of players with well known (if no the acute) injuries. If a player is genuinely injured, the player can be legitimately substituted.

The wrong spirit is taking a player off who is not genuinely injured (they might be tired or just be playing poorly) under the guise of injury and substituting them with fresh legs.

[goswannies]

So, according to your view on the sub issue, when Alex Johnson did his 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd ACL, and went off, the sub couldn’t be activated to replace him?

If we sign Paddy McCartin at seasons end, if he suffers another concussion in a game, he can’t be subbed off?

If Hickey sustains a knee injury during the finals, he can’t be subbed off?

They are all far more established and more significant pre-exisiting injuries than Mills.

Goswannies are you the poster who posts brilliantly on medical matters?

Do you work in the medical field?

If you are a medical expert, I will be deferring to your opinion.

I suppose that would depend on how you define expert. Are you asking me to post credentials to validate my post?

[Blood Fever]

I suppose that would depend on how you define expert. Are you asking me to post credentials to validate my post?

Best not to get sucked in by this guy GS

[Bangalore Swans]

I suppose that would depend on how you define expert. Are you asking me to post credentials to validate my post?

I recall that you post brilliant stuff on ACL’s and other injuries. I always assumed based on the medical insights in your posts that you had either physio or medical experience.

No need to post credentials.

In the future if I want to know something about injuries, I will ask you.

I have no medical experience so won’t post any more on injuries.

I just felt that they took Mills into the game not fully fit and most probably knew that it was touch and go if Mills will get through. I will ask for your opinion on this and other injury matters in the future.

[Ludwig]

I recall that you post brilliant stuff on ACL’s and other injuries. I always assumed based on the medical insights in your posts that you had either physio or medical experience.

No need to post credentials.

In the future if I want to know something about injuries, I will ask you.

I have no medical experience so won’t post any more on injuries.

I just felt that they took Mills into the game not fully fit and most probably knew that it was touch and go if Mills will get through. I will ask for your opinion on this and other injury matters in the future.

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GoSwannies credentials under review, but I would give hive a gold star.

[royboy42]

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GoSwannies credentials under review, but I would give hive a gold star.

Wow, Go Swannies has the Bangalore seal of approval. Fantastic and congrats. Now we all have something to aspire towards.

[Rod_]

Mills had 2 reasons to play.

Prove he can impact the game. (on 1.5 legs) Yep did that

And not make the leg any worse.. (Rested once he had proved #1)

Ready to go on 1.5+ legs for next week

IMO

[Agent 86]

I recall that you post brilliant stuff on ACL’s and other injuries. I always assumed based on the medical insights in your posts that you had either physio or medical experience.

No need to post credentials.

In the future if I want to know something about injuries, I will ask you.

I have no medical experience so won’t post any more on injuries.

I just felt that they took Mills into the game not fully fit and most probably knew that it was touch and go if Mills will get through. I will ask for your opinion on this and other injury matters in the future.

Who needs goswannies when we have Gerard Healy?

[goswannies]

Who needs goswannies when we have Gerard Healy?

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[Agent 86]

Oooohhhww… careful with that achilles.

[Mountain Man]

When the Swans sang the song after the win in Round 23, they were not in the usual circle, but had an opening and some players were glancing into that space.

What was that all about?

[Buzz13]

When the Swans sang the song after the win in Round 23, they were not in the usual circle, but had an opening and some players were glancing into that space.

What was that all about?

They had the staff that couldn't be there on the TV monitor singing with them

[Bangalore Swans]

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Goswannies, I’m not understanding the Mills injury. How do make an injury better by continuing to play? A number of players have said that Mills’s injury needs game time to improve.

I’ve always been conditioned to think that injuries need rest and targeted rehabilitation to improve.

What is the difference with Mills’s injury?