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  • KSAS
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2018
    • 1764

    Originally posted by Meg
    Great to hear about your transition to the Swans. I have in the past wondered about your RWO posting name.

    I recently rewatched all the ‘Jack Irish’ TV episodes (lockdown activity). I really enjoyed the depiction of the ongoing pain of the old Roy supporters.

    One of my best friends, also a Fitzroy diehard, like you has never forgotten or forgiven. She became a Dees supporter after partnering with a Melbourne fanatic + Paul Roos time as Melbourne coach.

    Go Swans!
    A work mate of mine at the time who was UK born & avid Carlton supporter, gave up following the AFL in disgust. Said no way this would happen in the EPL & couldn't believe how the AFL could let a club like Fitzroy die. Years later we happen to bump into each other in pub during GF week in 2005. He was still true to his word but was genuinely very happy for me that the Swans made GF and so hoping we'd win. He caught up with me post GF to celebrate win with me, knowing how much it meant.

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      Originally posted by AppleCore
      Hello royboy
      You may not realise the irony of being a Fitzroy supporter who laments their passing and now barracks for the Swans.
      My understanding of the sad saga (please correct if wrong): When the VFL were selecting a team to be sent to Sydney to exploit the Sydney advertising market and to provide a Sunday game that could be directly televised to Melbourne, they initially selected Fitzroy (who supposedly were in the worst financial shape of the VFL teams). However, people associated with the Fitzroy hierarchy learnt of the VFL's plans and initiated a campaign of lobbying the other VFL clubs to have South sent in their place. This campaign was successful and Fitzroy received a temporary stay of execution. Of course, I appreciate that even if South had survived this episode, it is very likely that they would have ultimately been sent to somewhere like Brisbane or the Gold Coast. Nevertheless, this old South supporter does not harbour rosy memories of Fitzroy.
      I didn't know about the Fitzroy Switch, but quite understandable.
      And welcome aboard!
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • royboy42
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2006
        • 2076

        Originally posted by Sandridge
        I'm not sure that Fitzroy actively lobbied for South to go to Sydney instead of them - might be wrong there - but it's certainly true that Fitzroy was the first club considered for relocation.

        Proposed mergers and relocations of the Fitzroy Football Club - Wikipedia

        I don't remember Fitzroy trying to get South to Sydney instead of them. I may be wrong, but I really dont hhink so.

        There was a huge "merge Fitzroy and Footscray" movement that lasted a long time.

        I think the Dogs finally put it to bed.

        And there were mutterings about North merging with us as well, which evaporated.

        Then the Brisbane thing , of course.
        Last edited by royboy42; 10 September 2021, 03:36 PM.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4040

          Originally posted by royboy42

          I don't remember Fitzroy trying to get South to Sydney instead of them. I may be wrong, but I really dont hhink so.

          There was a huge "merge Fitzroy and Footscray" movement that lasted a long time.

          I think the Dogs finally put it to bed.

          And there were mutterings about North merging with us as well, which evaporated.

          Then the Brisbane thing , of course.
          Had friends who were supporters of the Roys. Very sad end- made worse by the president of Brisbane at the time who mocked Fitzroy publicly on tv on the night the merger was finalized. Fitzroy were on of the original VFL teams and had been around for 100 years.

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          • royboy42
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2006
            • 2076

            Originally posted by Blood Fever
            Had friends who were supporters of the Roys. Very sad end- made worse by the president of Brisbane at the time who mocked Fitzroy publicly on tv on the night the merger was finalized. Fitzroy were on of the original VFL teams and had been around for 100 years.
            The comments by Brisbane's President were the reason my brother never went to another football match...and loathed everything Bears/Lions till the day he died.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4040

              Originally posted by royboy42
              The comments by Brisbane's President were the reason my brother never went to another football match...and loathed everything Bears/Lions till the day he died.
              Can imagine his heartbreak.

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              • Ruck'n'Roll
                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                • Nov 2003
                • 3990

                Originally posted by Sandridge
                I'm not sure that Fitzroy actively lobbied for South to go to Sydney instead of them - might be wrong there - but it's certainly true that Fitzroy was the first club considered for relocation.

                Proposed mergers and relocations of the Fitzroy Football Club - Wikipedia
                Originally posted by KSAS
                A work mate of mine at the time who was UK born & avid Carlton supporter, gave up following the AFL in disgust. Said no way this would happen in the EPL & couldn't believe how the AFL could let a club like Fitzroy die. Years later we happen to bump into each other in pub during GF week in 2005. He was still true to his word but was genuinely very happy for me that the Swans made GF and so hoping we'd win. He caught up with me post GF to celebrate win with me, knowing how much it meant.
                Many of the KSAS mob actually adopted Fitzroy as their team after the Swans moved to Sydney. Some then shifetd allegiance to Footscray when the Lions amalgamated with Brisbane. Jim Mains "Shake Down The Thunder" interviewed several of them - they seemed very sad people.

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                • basher williams
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 42

                  Hi royboy.
                  I can understand your angst when your beloved Roys were disbanded and a number of players headed north to form a composite team with the Bears.The league made a concession when they changed the colours and renaimed the team.How many of theFitzroy players went to Brisbane?. You may recollect. Anyway it didnt soothe the hurt of the old diehard Roy supporters. I dont know any of my old mates, lifelong supporters who have followed the Brisbane team

                  Fortunately with South it was a different scenario.The whole team was moved (dumped) up to Sydney,but we still had our colours ,team etc ,but with different location. Better than the team ceasing to exist,and we have had some great moments from them. I"ll always remember the amazing euphoria I experienced at the siren after waiting 72 years to see a premiership.

                  Great that after the Fitzroy debacle you picked the Swans to follow.

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                  • royboy42
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2076

                    Originally posted by basher williams
                    Hi royboy.
                    I can understand your angst when your beloved Roys were disbanded and a number of players headed north to form a composite team with the Bears.The league made a concession when they changed the colours and renaimed the team.How many of theFitzroy players went to Brisbane?. You may recollect. Anyway it didnt soothe the hurt of the old diehard Roy supporters. I dont know any of my old mates, lifelong supporters who have followed the Brisbane team

                    Fortunately with South it was a different scenario.The whole team was moved (dumped) up to Sydney,but we still had our colours ,team etc ,but with different location. Better than the team ceasing to exist,and we have had some great moments from them. I"ll always remember the amazing euphoria I experienced at the siren after waiting 72 years to see a premiership.

                    Great that after the Fitzroy debacle you picked the Swans to follow.
                    Eight went to Brissy, and several went elsewhere, notably Martin Pike who was initially over looked by Bris, but finished in their 3 peat team.

                    And the 2005 flag was my first premiership too. Talk about euphoria.

                    Fitzroy won in 44, but i was too young to be part of it. And they never made another Grandy.

                    Chris Johnson was the only one of the eight that lasted.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11328

                      Originally posted by royboy42

                      I don't remember Fitzroy trying to get South to Sydney instead of them. I may be wrong, but I really dont hhink so.

                      There was a huge "merge Fitzroy and Footscray" movement that lasted a long time.

                      I think the Dogs finally put it to bed.

                      And there were mutterings about North merging with us as well, which evaporated.

                      Then the Brisbane thing , of course.
                      It was all about Allan Aylett protecting North. He tried to shaft Fitzroy first, but Leon Weigard as good as told him to eff off. Then set his sites on South.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • basher williams
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 42

                        A few of the boys I went through school with gave good service to the Roys.
                        Ken & Gerry Sier , Bill Stephen , Eddie Goodger, Kevin Murray , Col Davey , Keith Weigard.
                        You would remember some of them royboy

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                        • royboy42
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2076

                          Originally posted by basher williams
                          A few of the boys I went through school with gave good service to the Roys.
                          Ken & Gerry Sier , Bill Stephen , Eddie Goodger, Kevin Murray , Col Davey , Keith Weigard.
                          You would remember some of them royboy
                          I lived over the road from Col.

                          I remember Murray Weideman sucker punching Eddie Goodger at BSO one day.

                          Kevin. of course, was a hero...saw his first game and knew straight away. He was only 16/17.

                          Bill, great back pocket and captain..Failed as coach.

                          Keith became an excellent administrator.

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                          • grarmy
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 406

                            Only saw one game of Fitzroy, against the Saints. Kevin Murray was a standout. Great player.
                            "Play like you can’t lose."

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