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  • NeonBible
    Warming the Bench
    • Mar 2021
    • 280

    #76
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    You should have said it was just an oversight on Rowbottom, because, barring injury, he's going to be a regulars in the side in 2022. He's the main reason we let Hewett go.

    Fox and O'Riordan are both capable of playing as medium defenders, halfbacks and on the wing, if only we had a spot for them. With Paddy coming onto the list and Reid likely to train up with the key defenders, I don't think we will be playing an undersized defence this year, so Fox is not in competition with Melican for a spot in the side.
    I don't doubt we will see plenty of Rowy next year, Ludwig. Injuries are unavoidable! I know you are a big fan of his - so am I My omission of him was less a knock on James himself and more a desire to see what others like Chad and Campbell can do in the midfield. With spots in there limited it seems inevitable that there will be one who misses out. I suppose everyone will have a different idea of who that player is! You've suggested Joey, others haven't included young Campbell as the most unproven mid.. i just see more of a place for those two than James at this point.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      #77
      If Heeney can make the transition back to his natural position in the mids hunting the ball with Mills, Kennedy and Parker.....that is a ridiculously powerful inside combo of mids and didn't leave room for Hewett.

      That is a very difficult 4 players to match up on as we haven't even seen the ceiling of what Mills and Henney can do in the mids and together with Parker and Kennedy......that is the Guns of Navarone fire-power.

      Warner, Florent, Rowbottom, Cambo, Errol, Paps, Wicks, McInerny, Blakey, Stephens rotating through the centre and outside for parts of games and matchups is a strong cartel.

      McDonald, Paddy, Latham, Reid and maybe even Sheather added at time to our forward line in 2022 will also bring a different blend than 2021 which is pretty exciting. Hayward 30 plus Paps 40 plus and Bud 50 plus goals for 2022 is starting to look standard if they play 18 plus games each.

      Backline I would not discount Gould, Fox, Oriordan going to that next level to support Rampe, Tom, Harry, Lloyd, Blakey.

      Strong unit for 2022 and if injuries are minimal top4 should be expected quote frankly.

      Lower down the table is not acceptable while we still have critical big time players in Buddy, Kennedy and Rampe all on our list and ighly capable for 2022
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Kafka's Ghost
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2017
        • 903

        #78
        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        If Heeney can make the transition back to his natural position in the mids hunting the ball with Mills, Kennedy and Parker.....that is a ridiculously powerful inside combo of mids and didn't leave room for Hewett.

        That is a very difficult 4 players to match up on as we haven't even seen the ceiling of what Mills and Henney can do in the mids and together with Parker and Kennedy......that is the Guns of Navarone fire-power.

        Warner, Florent, Rowbottom, Cambo, Errol, Paps, Wicks, McInerny, Blakey, Stephens rotating through the centre and outside for parts of games and matchups is a strong cartel.

        McDonald, Paddy, Latham, Reid and maybe even Sheather added at time to our forward line in 2022 will also bring a different blend than 2021 which is pretty exciting. Hayward 30 plus Paps 40 plus and Bud 50 plus goals for 2022 is starting to look standard if they play 18 plus games each.

        Backline I would not discount Gould, Fox, Oriordan going to that next level to support Rampe, Tom, Harry, Lloyd, Blakey.

        Strong unit for 2022 and if injuries are minimal top4 should be expected quote frankly.

        Lower down the table is not acceptable while we still have critical big time players in Buddy, Kennedy and Rampe all on our list and ighly capable for 2022
        Great post. It became clear through 2020 we were building a strong list, despite the inexperience then. It bore fruit in 2021, and should again 2022, injuries and form being equal. Agree entirely regarding Mills; a future AA midfielder there.

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          #79
          Barring injury, I think it's unlikely any of our draft haul debut R1. Maybe Sheldrick as a small pressure forward - some of his highlights show he's strong in the one on one marking contest around goals and he certainly can tackle.

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          • Bangalore Swans
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Mar 2021
            • 1049

            #80
            Updated team:

            B Rampe P.McCartin Campbell
            HF J-Mac T.McCartin Blakey
            C Florent Heeney Stephens
            HF Heyward Franklin Gulden
            F Logan Ladhams Papley
            Foll Hickey Mills Parker
            Inter Chad Kennedy Rowbotton Sheldrick

            Medical-Cunningham

            No room in the 22 for Cunningham or Wicks. They are one position players and I want flexibility.

            In the backline I can move J-Mac, Campbell or Blakey onto a wing.

            Mills can play half back.

            Florent, Parker and Heeney can rotate forward.

            Papley can play in the centre square.

            The bench midfield strength of Chad, Rowbottom, Kennedy and Sheldrick is huge and allows flexibility.

            I can’t wait to see J-Mac, Blakey and Campbell breaking the lines with run, carry and skill off half back.

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            • Ralph Dawg
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2018
              • 1729

              #81
              Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
              Updated team:

              B Rampe P.McCartin Campbell
              HF J-Mac T.McCartin Blakey
              C Florent Heeney Stephens
              HF Heyward Franklin Gulden
              F Logan Ladhams Papley
              Foll Hickey Mills Parker
              Inter Chad Kennedy Rowbotton Sheldrick

              Medical-Cunningham

              No room in the 22 for Cunningham or Wicks. They are one position players and I want flexibility.

              In the backline I can move J-Mac, Campbell or Blakey onto a wing.

              Mills can play half back.

              Florent, Parker and Heeney can rotate forward.

              Papley can play in the centre square.

              The bench midfield strength of Chad, Rowbottom, Kennedy and Sheldrick is huge and allows flexibility.

              I can’t wait to see J-Mac, Blakey and Campbell breaking the lines with run, carry and skill off half back.
              Surely there's a spot for Lloyd in there. Cunningham is our best small defender IMO, has to be in the team if fit.

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              • i'm-uninformed2
                Reefer Madness
                • Oct 2003
                • 4653

                #82
                Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                Updated team:

                B Rampe P.McCartin Campbell
                HF J-Mac T.McCartin Blakey
                C Florent Heeney Stephens
                HF Heyward Franklin Gulden
                F Logan Ladhams Papley
                Foll Hickey Mills Parker
                Inter Chad Kennedy Rowbotton Sheldrick

                Medical-Cunningham

                No room in the 22 for Cunningham or Wicks. They are one position players and I want flexibility.

                In the backline I can move J-Mac, Campbell or Blakey onto a wing.

                Mills can play half back.

                Florent, Parker and Heeney can rotate forward.

                Papley can play in the centre square.

                The bench midfield strength of Chad, Rowbottom, Kennedy and Sheldrick is huge and allows flexibility.

                I can’t wait to see J-Mac, Blakey and Campbell breaking the lines with run, carry and skill off half back.
                I get your logic and you do want balance and speed and flexibility, but sometimes there's value in having single role players like Cunningham. Hell, Nick Smith was one of our finest for a decade doing just that. I'll bet he saved us a lot more goals every time he clamped a Milne or a Betts or a Cyril than an alternative flexible dasher would have created.
                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  #83
                  I think it's unlikely that any of our new draftees will debut R1 - with the possible exception of Paddy McCartin once he gets on our list.
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                  • Bangalore Swans
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 1049

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Surely there's a spot for Lloyd in there. Cunningham is our best small defender IMO, has to be in the team if fit.
                    Apologies. Sheldrick out, Lloyd in.

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                    • Bangalore Swans
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 1049

                      #85
                      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                      I get your logic and you do want balance and speed and flexibility, but sometimes there's value in having single role players like Cunningham. Hell, Nick Smith was one of our finest for a decade doing just that. I'll bet he saved us a lot more goals every time he clamped a Milne or a Betts or a Cyril than an alternative flexible dasher would have created.
                      True. But we can’t go back. The football this year was the most entertaining I’ve seen from a Swans team. I want more of the entertaining football. I want switching, run and carry, corridor and elite skills from players who can play multiple positions.

                      That’s not Cunningham. We can’t go back.

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6480

                        #86
                        wow 2011 round 8................. an inside inside inside mid by the name of Luke PARKER got in there at 18yrs of age and ripped in

                        Could Angus do the same in 2022 before round 8 ?



                        Sydney Swans v Port Adelaide
                        SCG – Sat May 14, 7:40pm - 2011

                        Sydney Swans

                        B: Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Ted Richards, Alex Johnson
                        HB: Tadhg Kennelly, Heath Grundy, Nicholas Smith
                        C: Rhyce Shaw, Craig Bird, Jarrad McVeigh
                        HF: Ben McGlynn, Sam Reid, Daniel Hannebery
                        F: Andrejs Everitt, Adam Goodes, Ryan O’Keefe
                        Foll: Shane Mumford, Jude Bolton, Josh P. Kennedy
                        I/C: Martin Mattner, Lewis Jetta, Nathan Gordon, L[COLOR="#FFFF00"]uke Parker[/COLOR]
                        Emg: Jarred Moore, Lewis Johnston, Mark Seaby

                        In: Lewis Roberts-Thomson, [B]Luke Parker[/B]
                        Out: Jarred Moore, Mike Pyke (Quad)

                        New: Luke Parker (Dandenong Stingrays)
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • i'm-uninformed2
                          Reefer Madness
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4653

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                          True. But we can’t go back. The football this year was the most entertaining I’ve seen from a Swans team. I want more of the entertaining football. I want switching, run and carry, corridor and elite skills from players who can play multiple positions.

                          That’s not Cunningham. We can’t go back.
                          What’s Tom McCartin, or Tom Hickey?
                          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                          • Bangalore Swans
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 1049

                            #88
                            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                            What’s Tom McCartin, or Tom Hickey?
                            You could throw Tom McCartin forward. It’s versatility. Hickey could go forward but less effective than Tom McCartin.

                            What I’m enthused about is J-Mac, Blakey and Campbell storing out of the backline and being creative. I got used to McVeigh off half back over many years with his little bauk and 20m kick. Now the Swans half back line is going to dominate the competition. Buddy will be able to play until he’s 40 because the ball will move so swiftly and so accurately. It all starts from off half back.

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              #89
                              Personally, I wouldn’t have any of the three bogged down on Charlie Cameron or Kosie Pickett or Toby Greene or Shia Bolton or Weightman. And someone has to tend to them because good small forwards can do serious damage. (I also think it undersells Harry’s speed, willingness to run and kicking skills).

                              I’ll be clear: I don’t disagree with your principle of how we should play and look at our best, and if one of them can shut down those players AND give us the dash and dare, great.

                              But let me try it this way, if Papley was playing for an opposing side, which of the three above would you back to do a better job on him than Cunningham?
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Bangalore Swans
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Mar 2021
                                • 1049

                                #90
                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                Personally, I wouldn’t have any of the three bogged down on Charlie Cameron or Kosie Pickett or Toby Greene or Shia Bolton or Weightman. And someone has to tend to them because good small forwards can do serious damage. (I also think it undersells Harry’s speed, willingness to run and kicking skills).

                                I’ll be clear: I don’t disagree with your principle of how we should play and look at our best, and if one of them can shut down those players AND give us the dash and dare, great.

                                But let me try it this way, if Papley was playing for an opposing side, which of the three above would you back to do a better job on him than Cunningham?
                                Your correct with that argument. Cunningham would be the match for Papley. I think Blakey on Papley would be an interesting match. Blakey is very good at ground level and if Papley got too close to the marking contest then Blakey would kill the contest 3rd man up. Blakey would match Papley for speed and would challenge Papley with his attacking run.

                                Has anyone seen a Papley v Blakey match up at training?

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