Best 22 Round 1 2022

[wolftone57]

Firstly, Dawson needs replacing. Do we replace Dawson with a draftee? Or do we look to someone like Gould? The pre-season games will sort out who will come into the side. I am sure that most of our draftees will get a go at some time or other. Rankin, funnily enough, looks very close to being an AFL player. It is interesting that one of dalrymple said that if he hadn't had an injury and a shortedned season he would have been ranked in the top 10.

[AB Swannie]

No room for our draftees and that is an awesome thing.

From our loss to GWS:
Out: Dawson, Hewett, Bell, O'Riordan, McLean
In: Blakey, Mills, Kennedy, Campbell, Ladhams

FB: Cunningham, Melican, Rampe
HB: Lloyd, T. McCartin, McInerney
C: Florent, Kennedy, Heeney
HF: Hayward, Ladhams, Gulden
F: Papley, Franklin, Wicks
Foll: Hickey, Parker, Mills
Int: Warner, Rowbottom, Campbell, Blakey
Sub: Stephens

Melican may be replaced by Paddy or maybe even Reid but I'm hoping that if he is selected, it means that he has trained down several houses in pre-season and has asserted himself as the KPD we need.

[COB]

No room for our draftees and that is an awesome thing.

From our loss to GWS:
Out: Dawson, Hewett, Bell, O'Riordan, McLean
In: Blakey, Mills, Kennedy, Campbell, Ladhams

FB: Cunningham, Melican, Rampe
HB: Lloyd, T. McCartin, McInerney
C: Florent, Kennedy, Heeney
HF: Hayward, Ladhams, Gulden
F: Papley, Franklin, Wicks
Foll: Hickey, Parker, Mills
Int: Warner, Rowbottom, Campbell, Blakey
Sub: Stephens

Melican may be replaced by Paddy or maybe even Reid but I'm hoping that if he is selected, it means that he has trained down several houses in pre-season and has asserted himself as the KPD we need.

I like your team but would probably have McDonald in instead of Rowbottom or Wicks unless playing in the wet.

[bloodspirit]

Firstly, Dawson needs replacing. Do we replace Dawson with a draftee? Or do we look to someone like Gould? The pre-season games will sort out who will come into the side. I am sure that most of our draftees will get a go at some time or other. Rankin, funnily enough, looks very close to being an AFL player. It is interesting that one of dalrymple said that if he hadn't had an injury and a shortedned season he would have been ranked in the top 10.

Good question. I like the Gould suggestion. It depends what about Dawson you are trying to replace but Gould offers both a booming kick and, I'd hope, a decent marking target. Of course, assuming he is ready to play AFL at all, it'll be a good while before he makes Dawson level (if ever).

I like your team but would probably have McDonald in instead of Rowbottom or Wicks unless playing in the wet.

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Also, may well be Paddy McCartin or even Gould (as per Woltftone's suggestion) instead of Melican depending on who shows the most in the pre-season.

I think there's a small chance Roberts could make it into the team ahead of Wicks in that pressure forward role. Roberts is a noted tackler and has the ability to kick goals. I'd have Wicks as the frontrunner but with a chance for Roberts if he can really impress over the pre-season.

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An idle musing: do you think there's any chance we would have selected Alleer (or any of those other four picked before Gus Sheldrick) if he'd been available at our first pick?

[AB Swannie]

I like your team but would probably have McDonald in instead of Rowbottom or Wicks unless playing in the wet.

Damn. I knew there was someone I missed. Agree totally. McDonald must play as the 3rd tall with Heeney spending more time midfield.

[The Runner]

Good question. I like the Gould suggestion. It depends what about Dawson you are trying to replace but Gould offers both a booming kick and, I'd hope, a decent marking target. Of course, assuming he is ready to play AFL at all, it'll be a good while before he makes Dawson level (if ever).



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Also, may well be Paddy McCartin or even Gould (as per Woltftone's suggestion) instead of Melican depending on who shows the most in the pre-season.

I think there's a small chance Roberts could make it into the team ahead of Wicks in that pressure forward role. Roberts is a noted tackler and has the ability to kick goals. I'd have Wicks as the frontrunner but with a chance for Roberts if he can really impress over the pre-season.

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An idle musing: do you think there's any chance we would have selected Alleer (or any of those other four picked before Gus Sheldrick) if he'd been available at our first pick?

No. The speed in which we submitted our bid, it implied that we was a major priority for us, and they think they have a steal. Usually there's a little deliberation or debate - it was almost instant.

[Nico]

Whatever, it's going to be a real competition for a spot.

[AB Swannie]

What is obvious is that it is really hard to pick a best 23. Within this thread, there is talk of seriously talented players like Campbell, Rowbottom, Stephens, Wicks, and even JPK missing out on selection. Also consider that the team I picked, there are 16 players aged 25 years or younger.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I think it's unlikely that any of our new draftees will debut R1 - with the possible exception of Paddy McCartin once he gets on our list.

Sure Paddy was the #1 draft pick seven years ago, but the Swans have had a lot of opportunities to add Paddy to their list, but so far have repeatedly (and maybe pointedly) failed to do so.

Perhaps his inclusion in the Swans VFL squad may need to be viewed as just that - nothing more, nothing less.

[Auntie.Gerald]

SYDNEY SWANS 2022 - if Paddy and Anderson join. For me Melican and Fox will be in the defensive line depending on matchups as they both bring something important depending on who we are playing.

I suspect we will give McDonald a shot first and see how long he can maintain Snr standard.

B - Fox Rampe Cunningham
HB - Lloyd McCartin Blakey
C - Florent Heeney McInerny
HF - Wicks Franklin Gulden
F - Papley McDonald Hayward
Foll - Hickey Parker Mills

Interchange
19. Warner Chad
20. Campbell
21. Ladhams
22. Kennedy

B - Oconnor, Reid, Melican
HB - Gould, Paddy, Oriordan
C - Stephens, Rowbottom, WarnerJnr
HF - Bell, Amartey, Rankin
F - Ronke, McClean, Sheather
Foll - Sinkers, Gus, Roberts
Bench - McAndrew, Taylor, Clarke, Anderson

Long term injury list: Naismith

[Roadrunner]

Sure Paddy was the #1 draft pick seven years ago, but the Swans have had a lot of opportunities to add Paddy to their list, but so far have repeatedly (and maybe pointedly) failed to do so.

Perhaps his inclusion in the Swans VFL squad may need to be viewed as just that - nothing more, nothing less.

We will need Paddy in the backline as we are short against monster forwards. Fox is not strong enough, unlike Ramps, to compete with them. Was thinking that Robbie could be good cover at HB, where first choice would be Blakey and Lloyd, and he and COR in case of injury. He is athletic, has good disposal and a great tank, a good mark- a kinda “replacement” for Dawso. What do you think?

[COB]

We will need Paddy in the backline as we are short against monster forwards. Fox is not strong enough, unlike Ramps, to compete with them. Was thinking that Robbie could be good cover at HB, where first choice would be Blakey and Lloyd, and he and COR in case of injury. He is athletic, has good disposal and a great tank, a good mark- a kinda “replacement” for Dawso. What do you think?

It would seem very unlikely to me that Paddy would be in the seniors early in the season. He hasn't played a senior game since R16 2018 and very little footy of any kind since then. Also very little meaningful experience as a key defender. Very big ask but happy to be proven wrong as I think key defender is our biggest weakness.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

We will need Paddy in the backline as we are short against monster forwards. Fox is not strong enough, unlike Ramps, to compete with them. Was thinking that Robbie could be good cover at HB, where first choice would be Blakey and Lloyd, and he and COR in case of injury. He is athletic, has good disposal and a great tank, a good mark- a kinda “replacement” for Dawso. What do you think?

Me? Two years ago I said the most important player on the list was Sam Naismith, and the Swans year would depend on his fitness or otherwise. As we look towards 2022, I'm trying not to feel the same about Lewis Melican. But with the departure of Brand, the big defender cupbord is looking extremely bare. If he falls over yet again, we will be depending on someone to play well out of their weight division and support McCartin junior. Rampe's done it for years, but like Leo, Dennis and Francis before him - the toll on the bodies of undersized key position players can be hefty.
As I said the Swans none selection of McCartinn senior is suggestive.

[AB Swannie]

Me? Two years ago I said the most important player on the list was Sam Naismith, and the Swans year would depend on his fitness or otherwise. As we look towards 2022, I'm trying not to feel the same about Lewis Melican. But with the departure of Brand, the big defender cupbord is looking extremely bare. If he falls over yet again, we will be depending on someone to play well out of their weight division and support McCartin junior. Rampe's done it for years, but like Leo, Dennis and Francis before him - the toll on the bodies of undersized key position players can be hefty.
As I said the Swans none selection of McCartinn senior is suggestive.

Two things. Firstly, if you think Melican is our lynchpin then surely Tom McCartin is more-so. Secondly, McCartin senior was not selected yet because he couldn't be. He didn't nominate for the draft so couldn't be picked up by any other team. He will be picked up in the supplementary period.

We are still vulnerable in the key defensive positions but for many games last year we played only two key defenders with T McCartin and Rampe. We played the last game with Melican as well. By my reckoning, we will have a depth chart of key defenders that looks something like this: T McCartin, Rampe, Melican, P McCartin, Fox, Reid.

[Roadrunner]

Two things. Firstly, if you think Melican is our lynchpin then surely Tom McCartin is more-so. Secondly, McCartin senior was not selected yet because he couldn't be. He didn't nominate for the draft so couldn't be picked up by any other team. He will be picked up in the supplementary period.

We are still vulnerable in the key defensive positions but for many games last year we played only two key defenders with T McCartin and Rampe. We played the last game with Melican as well. By my reckoning, we will have a depth chart of key defenders that looks something like this: T McCartin, Rampe, Melican, P McCartin, Fox, Reid.

Sammy was retained for cover down back(when fit) I suspect. Then we have Gould and BOC, and these lads surely will get some games and hopefully become valuable players.