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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6480

    No Jmac ?
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • Rod_
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1179

      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      No Jmac ?
      Or McDonald - (or Amartey or McCartin P who could be handy ... if match ready / fit!)

      There is usually one of the kids that gets a game or 2 early in the year.. Gould or Sheldrick, or ?)

      Very early to be locking in the team for the year.. best 25+ players appears to have depth!

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      • graemed
        Swans2win
        • Jan 2003
        • 410

        Oops. McInerney must come into the side. Sorry James relegated to the extras along with the other 5 pluses.

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        • graemed
          Swans2win
          • Jan 2003
          • 410

          Since we’re just talking about round 1 I can’t see McDonald as a starter ahead either McClean or Reid.
          I’m not sure if it’s physique or his fitness but he seems to fade early in games at least he did last year. I’m hoping that another pre-season and another year under the conditioning staff will cure the problem however I can’t see him in the team unless he has an outstanding couple of practice games.

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Originally posted by graemed
            Since we’re just talking about round 1 I can’t see McDonald as a starter ahead either McClean or Reid.
            I’m not sure if it’s physique or his fitness but he seems to fade early in games at least he did last year. I’m hoping that another pre-season and another year under the conditioning staff will cure the problem however I can’t see him in the team unless he has an outstanding couple of practice games.
            If we only want to play 2 tall forwards, McLean, Amartey, Reid and Ladhams can all provide a chop out in the ruck. LMac as far as I'm aware, does not provide ruck relief (Buddy as well but he's Buddy!) so with him in the team, it demands we play a three tall setup or a reserve ruck at the expense of one of our young midfield / small forward brigade (eg Campbell, Wicks, Stephens, Sheldrick, Roberts even Bell or Sqizzy). It's all irrelevant if his form doesn't warrant selection but certainly becomes interesting if he's playing well along with most of our midfielders. Wouldn't want to be picking the team.

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              Originally posted by graemed
              Since we’re just talking about round 1 I can’t see McDonald as a starter ahead either McClean or Reid.
              I’m not sure if it’s physique or his fitness but he seems to fade early in games at least he did last year. I’m hoping that another pre-season and another year under the conditioning staff will cure the problem however I can’t see him in the team unless he has an outstanding couple of practice games.
              I guess he faded a bit in games because he was 18yo.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Bexl
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2003
                • 817

                ok I will have a go

                FB CUNNINGHAM P MCCARTIN RAMPE

                HB BLAKEY T MCCARTIN LLOYD

                C J MAC MILLS HEENEY

                HF HAYWARD LADHAMS GULDEN

                FF WICKS FRANKLIN PAPLEY

                R HICKEY PARKER CH WARNER

                INT KENNEDY FLORENT FOX STEPHENS

                EMERG MCDONALD CAMPBELL ROWBOTTOM

                of course this is dependent on a few things. MILLS being ok and reports that Stephens has had a great pre-season. also that ROWBOTTOM has recovered. of course P MCCARTIN at full back is a bit of a unusual call at this stage of his come back but I'm going with it anyway.

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                • TheBloods
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 2047

                  Originally posted by Bexl
                  ok I will have a go

                  FB CUNNINGHAM P MCCARTIN RAMPE

                  HB BLAKEY T MCCARTIN LLOYD

                  C J MAC MILLS HEENEY

                  HF HAYWARD LADHAMS GULDEN

                  FF WICKS FRANKLIN PAPLEY

                  R HICKEY PARKER CH WARNER

                  INT KENNEDY FLORENT FOX STEPHENS

                  EMERG MCDONALD CAMPBELL ROWBOTTOM

                  of course this is dependent on a few things. MILLS being ok and reports that Stephens has had a great pre-season. also that ROWBOTTOM has recovered. of course P MCCARTIN at full back is a bit of a unusual call at this stage of his come back but I'm going with it anyway.
                  too short forward . Ladhams will be 2nd rucking and you have no one else except Buddy . Need another f50 target

                  Gulden also will be playing mids more so you have named 9 mids , too many

                  No offence

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                  • Bexl
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 817

                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    too short forward . Ladhams will be 2nd rucking and you have no one else except Buddy . Need another f50 target

                    Gulden also will be playing mids more so you have named 9 mids , too many

                    No offence
                    none taken. so maybe take Stephens out and put in McDonald. i'd keep Fox for the back line rotation. also J Mac can rotate through half back.
                    Just my opinion but I see what you mean about another tall forward.

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                    • Bangalore Swans
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 1049

                      Originally posted by Bexl
                      ok I will have a go

                      FB CUNNINGHAM P MCCARTIN RAMPE

                      HB BLAKEY T MCCARTIN LLOYD

                      C J MAC MILLS HEENEY

                      HF HAYWARD LADHAMS GULDEN

                      FF WICKS FRANKLIN PAPLEY

                      R HICKEY PARKER CH WARNER

                      INT KENNEDY FLORENT FOX STEPHENS

                      EMERG MCDONALD CAMPBELL ROWBOTTOM

                      of course this is dependent on a few things. MILLS being ok and reports that Stephens has had a great pre-season. also that ROWBOTTOM has recovered. of course P MCCARTIN at full back is a bit of a unusual call at this stage of his come back but I'm going with it anyway.
                      Like your team. I have P Mccartin in my team as well. Does anyone know how P Mccartin is training? Is he screaming round 1.

                      I would have Lloyd on the bench to start J-Mac in the back 6. Need his run and drive back there.

                      I would drop Fox and bring in McDonald for some forward height.

                      The final one is Campbell for Wicks.

                      People will tell me about the small forward roles and the like. Campbell is a better and more versatile footballer. Campbell played a game as small forward later in 2021 and looked good.

                      If you played Campbell at small forward he would be just as effective as Wicks defensively, he’s quicker and you would have better finishing skills. You could also use Campbell at half back or on a wing in a game if a change was needed. Wicks has not demonstrated AFL versatility at this stage.

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                      • TheBloods
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 2047

                        Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                        Like your team. I have P Mccartin in my team as well. Does anyone know how P Mccartin is training? Is he screaming round 1.

                        I would have Lloyd on the bench to start J-Mac in the back 6. Need his run and drive back there.

                        I would drop Fox and bring in McDonald for some forward height.

                        The final one is Campbell for Wicks.

                        People will tell me about the small forward roles and the like. Campbell is a better and more versatile footballer. Campbell played a game as small forward later in 2021 and looked good.

                        If you played Campbell at small forward he would be just as effective as Wicks defensively, he’s quicker and you would have better finishing skills. You could also use Campbell at half back or on a wing in a game if a change was needed. Wicks has not demonstrated AFL versatility at this stage.
                        Agree about Mcdonald over Fox

                        Disagree about Cambell ovrr Wicks . Campbell has the strength of my 12 yr old grandson . He was a turnstile for opponents last year . Cant tackle and pressure yet He is 23rd man in my opinion

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                        • graemed
                          Swans2win
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 410

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          I guess he faded a bit in games because he was 18yo.
                          I have no doubt that his age and perhaps living away from home may have contributed to my observation.
                          I support his endeavours to date and believe that if we can hang on to him, he will be a significant asset going forward.
                          My point is that I believe that he wasn't able to play a full game out last year and whilst he is impressive in bursts he needs better conditioning to truly contribute to the team ahead of others that have proven endurance and resilience.

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                          • Bangalore Swans
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 1049

                            Originally posted by TheBloods
                            Agree about Mcdonald over Fox

                            Disagree about Cambell ovrr Wicks . Campbell has the strength of my 12 yr old grandson . He was a turnstile for opponents last year . Cant tackle and pressure yet He is 23rd man in my opinion
                            I would have Wicks as medical sub. Still gets a game to the tally sheet and gets paid.

                            Disagree strongly on turnstile observation. Literally all Swans Academy kids are better equipped at tackling than young kids drafted in AFL football states.

                            They have all been exposed to some Rugby League or Rugby Union in their junior sporting development. They learn how to tackle through that exposure. Look at Heeney’s tackles for instance. Even James Bell can execute a great tackle.

                            Campbell’s no turnstile. He’s a Sydney boy and they’re bred to tackle.

                            The Swans need Campbell in the side. I’ll become opinionated if Bell gets games ahead of Campbell.

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                            • Bangalore Swans
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 1049

                              Originally posted by graemed
                              I have no doubt that his age and perhaps living away from home may have contributed to my observation.
                              I support his endeavours to date and believe that if we can hang on to him, he will be a significant asset going forward.
                              My point is that I believe that he wasn't able to play a full game out last year and whilst he is impressive in bursts he needs better conditioning to truly contribute to the team ahead of others that have proven endurance and resilience.
                              Drove past McDonald on Moore Park Road. The man is massive and has a frame that could destroy with some time. Maybe his frame can become like Tom Hawkins’s build.

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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                Originally posted by graemed
                                Since we’re just talking about round 1 I can’t see McDonald as a starter ahead either McClean or Reid.
                                I’m not sure if it’s physique or his fitness but he seems to fade early in games at least he did last year. I’m hoping that another pre-season and another year under the conditioning staff will cure the problem however I can’t see him in the team unless he has an outstanding couple of practice games.
                                Except McDonald started in Round 1 last year and has no doubt improved since then, whereas I don't think the same can be said for Reid and I think McLean is competing with Ladhams and Amartey for a spot. I think McDonald will be selected if we go with three talls forward as I hope and expect (barring injury).
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