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  • Bloody Hell
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2006
    • 3085

    Swans chat Sam Reid is the Key Defender we need!

    Seen some weird posts on social media calling for the delisting of Sam Reid. McLean seems to have gone past him, and with the development of MacDonald and hubub surrounding him, you would assume Reid is set for the trade table.

    I have thought for a while he is a much better defender than forward. With he and McCartin as the key posts with Rampe taking the 3rd forward and being more attacking, suddenly we could have a premiership defense.

    Too good a player to not be playing.
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.
  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8149

    #2
    It would be a different story if the poor bugger could stay fit.

    But one has to wonder how long we can persist with a player that doesn't seem to be able to string more than a handful of games together before then missing a whole bunch. But perhaps he will have a chance this off-season to have a full pre-season, something which I do not sense he has had a chance to enjoy very often.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #3
      Reid's not considered best 22 anymore and he's injury prone. No up side to keeping him on the list.

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        #4
        Originally posted by mcs
        It would be a different story if the poor bugger could stay fit.

        But one has to wonder how long we can persist with a player that doesn't seem to be able to string more than a handful of games together before then missing a whole bunch. But perhaps he will have a chance this off-season to have a full pre-season, something which I do not sense he has had a chance to enjoy very often.
        Time to go... a lot of clubs would not have shown the same patience as us. Will always be remembered as a premiership player.

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        • tlock
          Warming the Bench
          • Sep 2016
          • 120

          #5
          I'm still waiting for his break out game

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          • crackedactor 01
            Regular in the Side
            • Jun 2020
            • 730

            #6
            Originally posted by Bloody Hell
            Seen some weird posts on social media calling for the delisting of Sam Reid. McLean seems to have gone past him, and with the development of MacDonald and hubub surrounding him, you would assume Reid is set for the trade table.

            I have thought for a while he is a much better defender than forward. With he and McCartin as the key posts with Rampe taking the 3rd forward and being more attacking, suddenly we could have a premiership defense.

            Too good a player to not be playing.
            On reflection having Sammy Reid down back instead of Melican would have been a better option. I have sure Hogan would not have taken all those marks with Reid as his opponent.

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            • Roadrunner
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2018
              • 1444

              #7
              Originally posted by crackedactor 01
              On reflection having Sammy Reid down back instead of Melican would have been a better option. I have sure Hogan would not have taken all those marks with Reid as his opponent.
              For sure, Crackerdactor. Sammy is great down back and very versatile. I had him in the team against GWS and we would have won the game. Yes, he is injury prone so we need a partner- Paddy comes to mind. We need to keep Sammy- period.

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1763

                #8
                Originally posted by barry
                Reid's not considered best 22 anymore and he's injury prone. No up side to keeping him on the list.
                Next year Sam Reid is due to have a injury free season which appears to be a every 2nd year pattern. This is reflected in he's only managed 150 games from his 12 season career thus far.

                Not sure if he can transition from part time to full time Key Defender. I'd rather Dan Talia who is a proven commodity whom we can get for nothing trade wise as a DFA, providing he passes medical. Paddy McCartin as other Key Defender option.
                Last edited by KSAS; 30 August 2021, 08:57 AM.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KSAS
                  Next year Sam Reid is due to have a injury free season which appears to be a every 2nd year pattern. This is reflected in he's only managed 150 games from his 12 season career thus far.

                  Not sure if he can transition from part time to full time Key Defender. I'd rather Dan Talia who is a proven commodity whom we can get for nothing trade wise as a DFA, providing he passes medical. Paddy McCartin as other Key Defender option.
                  I'd be concerned that Talia has been delisted from the 2nd or 3rd last team. He must be shot, and his best fit is a team that needs experience ala gold coast.
                  Paddy McCartin would have been picked up in mid-season draft if they thought he was any good.

                  I think we are better off developing a young'in or drafting or recruiting a young'in.

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    #10
                    I've got two arguments against Reid, and one for.

                    Against No1: His body. I've always like Sam at his best, but it's hard to have any more faith at his ability to play a full season - particularly given blokes with that sort of history don't tend to get any better with injuries as they get older. We need to be ruthless about how list, and he's on the wrong side of the ledger right now.

                    Against No2: We've got three good young developing forwards - McDonald obviously, and then two who play a similar role to Reid in Amartey and McLean. They need games as we enter a premiership window, so sorry Sammy - but you're time is up. And as a defender, we're going to pick McCartin's partner for the next five years and develop that synchronicity. And you ain't got five years in you.

                    For No1: Next year is the last year we have Buddy (most likely). So, on a significantly reduced, one year contract, we'll keep you on in the hope you stay fit - and if we get you at your best, up front or down back, you can maximise our chances of nicking a flag before Buddy sails off into the sunset.

                    I lean to the former, as much as I like Reid and suspect the coaches do too, but just wanted to make the latter case for the sake of debate.
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #11
                      Can we have a different Sam?
                      Sam Taylor would be great fit.
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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #12
                        I dont think our defense is the problem. We kept the giants to a low score.
                        Our problem in the final was lack of big bodied midfielders around the stopage, which kennedy and mills cover.

                        I wouldnt be suprised if we look for organic growth internally for 2022. And Reid is not in that equation.

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                        • i'm-uninformed2
                          Reefer Madness
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4653

                          #13
                          I don't disagree with your observation on Reid, or that elements re the midfield

                          I do think we need another tall KPD. One: imagine if McCartin went down. We'd be royally screwed. Two: Rampe is 31 and can't go on forever. He's been remarkable and has a few years left in him touch wood, but we need a plan for life after him and there's no sign yet either way that Gould will definitely fill the void. And three, the best teams are now playing three tall forwards. We're a bit of an exception to the rule.

                          I get we can and have successfully used different methods to cover that, but an extra KPD is essential for our list going forward.
                          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                          • Swanny40519
                            Regular in the side.
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 469

                            #14
                            I would say to Sam Reid - this is your last chance and we will put you in defence. He has played a few times in defence, mostly as a part time near the end of a qtr.

                            This will give us an extra year to try and find a tall defender to help out McCartin. With most other teams now having 2 -3 very tall forwards we really need to find more hight to assist an overworked defence.

                            I am not sure if Melican has the pace or skill to hold down CHB, but he did have a good last qtr on Saturday.

                            Also what about Paddy McCartin - is he a possibility or too big a risk.

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Swanny40519
                              ...
                              I am not sure if Melican has the pace or skill to hold down CHB, but he did have a good last qtr on Saturday ...
                              The next LRT?
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