General off-season footy chat

[Jimitron5000]

Gambling advertising and the 'match-day experience' are two things that annoy the merde out of me.

As for the footy itself, if they don't give the player going for the ball an opportunity to do something with it, it becomes beneficial for players to be second to the ball and wait for the opportunity to lay a tackle with increasing likelihood of getting a free kick. This is not what anyone wants.

[Meg]

Gambling advertising and the 'match-day experience' are two things that annoy the merde out of me.

As for the footy itself, if they don't give the player going for the ball an opportunity to do something with it, it becomes beneficial for players to be second to the ball and wait for the opportunity to lay a tackle with increasing likelihood of getting a free kick. This is not what anyone wants.

As for the footy itself, if they don't give the player going for the ball an opportunity to do something with it, it becomes beneficial for players to be second to the ball and wait for the opportunity to lay a tackle with increasing likelihood of getting a free kick. This is not what anyone wants.

What they are trying to eliminate is taking possession of the ball as a defensive measure with no intent of disposing of it. In other words, playing for the ball-up to soak up time to allow the siren to sound (Rowbottom in 2020(?)) or for the cavalry to arrive to boost the defence line.

The latter was a game plan well used by the Swans of old. Jude Bolton referred to this in an article following the controversial, short-lived experiment of calling HTB more quickly in 2020 after comments by Clarkson.

Jude Bolton:

“The Sydney team that I was a part of reacted by taking a defensive mindset to nullify, and control their (Brisbane Lions) dominance. This resulted in midfielders 'taking the tackle' to avoid the ball being spilled out into waiting opposition players for a turnover goal.

I firmly believe if umpires paid more HTB decisions at this time, it would have changed our mindset. We were strong and co-ordinated at the resultant stoppages.”

Why the holding the ball rule is against the spirit of the game

[dimelb]

I sent The Age my crankiness at loud music and gabble of all descriptions.
Felt better!

[Meg]

I sent The Age my crankiness at loud music and gabble of all descriptions.
Felt better!

Did you also write an article for The Guardian?

“What I don’t want at the MCG could fill a column. I don’t want a sensory overload. I don’t want Guy Grossi dishing up Duck Surprise at quarter time. I don’t want fun facilitators perforating my eardrums. I don’t want T-shirts being fired into the crowd like mortar cannons. I don’t want the MCG, a ground I love, to be visible from outer space.”

MCG revamp requires closer study than a feverish Eddie McGuire thought bubble | AFL | The Guardian

[wolftone57]

Did you also write an article for The Guardian?

“What I don’t want at the MCG could fill a column. I don’t want a sensory overload. I don’t want Guy Grossi dishing up Duck Surprise at quarter time. I don’t want fun facilitators perforating my eardrums. I don’t want T-shirts being fired into the crowd like mortar cannons. I don’t want the MCG, a ground I love, to be visible from outer space.”

MCG revamp requires closer study than a feverish Eddie McGuire thought bubble | AFL | The Guardian

I love the SCG. But even there the music at the breaks is far too loud. You can't even talk, unless you go inside. I like to discuss the game with my friends. But that is impossible.

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[Nico]

I love the SCG. But even there the music at the breaks is far too loud. You can't even talk, unless you go inside. I like to discuss the game with my friends. But that is impossible.

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I have been going to the footy for 55 years and this is what most people do. They either sit in the stands talking about the game or players, or do so in the bar. Some PR company probably came up with the idea we needed to be entertained at breaks. In this aspect, the modern day custodians of the game have got it so wrong.

In the Big Bash they are still playing inane noises almost to the point of the delivery of the ball. So annoying.

[wolftone57]

I have been going to the footy for 55 years and this is what most people do. They either sit in the stands talking about the game or players, or do so in the bar. Some PR company probably came up with the idea we needed to be entertained at breaks. In this aspect, the modern day custodians of the game have got it so wrong.

In the Big Bash they are still playing inane noises almost to the point of the delivery of the ball. So annoying.

Yes it is, annoyong

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[neilfws]

I have been going to the footy for 55 years and this is what most people do. They either sit in the stands talking about the game or players, or do so in the bar. Some PR company probably came up with the idea we needed to be entertained at breaks. In this aspect, the modern day custodians of the game have got it so wrong.

I feel like it's a relatively recent thing? I started going to the SCG regularly in 2003 and I don't recall noticing any excessive noise back then. I was much younger then of course, which may be related...

It was especially bad last season. Maybe worse since about the time they built the new Noble Bradman?

What really annoys is the response to complaints which seems to be essentially "you just don't get our new match day experience, give it time you'll come around to it". I really won't.

[dimelb]

Did you also write an article for The Guardian?

“What I don’t want at the MCG could fill a column. I don’t want a sensory overload. I don’t want Guy Grossi dishing up Duck Surprise at quarter time. I don’t want fun facilitators perforating my eardrums. I don’t want T-shirts being fired into the crowd like mortar cannons. I don’t want the MCG, a ground I love, to be visible from outer space.”

MCG revamp requires closer study than a feverish Eddie McGuire thought bubble | AFL | The Guardian

Not my words but well said!

[dejavoodoo44]

I feel like it's a relatively recent thing? I started going to the SCG regularly in 2003 and I don't recall noticing any excessive noise back then. I was much younger then of course, which may be related...

It was especially bad last season. Maybe worse since about the time they built the new Noble Bradman?

What really annoys is the response to complaints which seems to be essentially "you just don't get our new match day experience, give it time you'll come around to it". I really won't.

I think it's only been this season at Metricon and the previous season at the Gabba, that the music has become infuriatingly loud. Prior to that, the Gabba often gave microphones to excessively cheery, everybody have fun now, types; but usually for fairly short periods before matches. And if I wanted to tune that out, I could just put some headphones on and listen to my own music. Last season I couldn't do that, because the volume level of the music being played at the ground, meant that the afrobeat, hip hop or funk that I was trying to listen to, was being discordantly mixed with commercial rock from the 70s, and the only way that I could have drowned it out, would have been turning the headphones up to ear damaging levels.

And on attitude to complaints, I have wondered if any of grounds pump the same music into corporate and private boxes? Not being a frequenter of those boxes, I can't really say, but my hunch is that they don't. I can't really see AFL officials or corporate dignitaries, entertaining guests, while screaming over some tiresome play list that was programmed by a commercial radio hack. So, I suspect that it's a case of management types, inflicting a match day experience on fans, that they wouldn't dream of inflicting on themselves.

[Markwebbos]

I think part of the problem is all the codes competing for the yoof. They don’t worry about us rusted on old timers.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I feel like it's a relatively recent thing? I started going to the SCG regularly in 2003 and I don't recall noticing any excessive noise back then. I was much younger then of course, which may be related...

It was especially bad last season. Maybe worse since about the time they built the new Noble Bradman?

What really annoys is the response to complaints which seems to be essentially "you just don't get our new match day experience, give it time you'll come around to it". I really won't.

+1

[bloodspirit]

So many great comments!

[sharp9]

Here’s the thing that I don’t understand when people complain. There is not, in my experience, one single person ANYWHERE who likes music in breaks or after goals…or who wants to hear anything except game related announcements. These people don’t exist. Who the forkballs is actually in charge of and making these decisions. There must BE somebody. Why can’t we talk to them. And yea this would change in an instant if Eddie or Gill had to take a precious “stakeholder” to the outer for a conversation at quarter time

[wolftone57]

Here’s the thing that I don’t understand when people complain. There is not, in my experience, one single person ANYWHERE who likes music in breaks or after goals…or who wants to hear anything except game related announcements. These people don’t exist. Who the forkballs is actually in charge of and making these decisions. There must BE somebody. Why can’t we talk to them. And yea this would change in an instant if Eddie or Gill had to take a precious “stakeholder” to the outer for a conversation at quarter time

It is what happens at the American Football games that this AFL management is so fond of copying

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