Rd 5 vs West Coast @ Optus - Match Thread

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I agree that Lloyd's kick outs are not up to scratch and in most games he serves up some very ordinary kicks from goal. Even in general play he seems to take forever when he has to kick, and most times are high floating kicks that put our players under pressure.
Campbell should take all the kick outs from goal in future.

Agreed, if Campbell is going to play down back and can handle the preassure of taking the kick ins - he should do so.

If Ladhams continues his form they will both play. 2 dominant rucks around the ground are invaluable. A tall forward will need to make way.

Nice to hear Nico, I think the tide may be turning slightly on the 2 ruckman debate.
Amongst the football media, Gawn/Jackson (and Marshall/Ryder) seem to be demonstrating the potentiality of 2 rucks to those that have forgotten.
As a card carrying member of the Paul-Roos-2-Rucks school of thought, I'm a bit over the you-only-need-one-ruckman chorus - maybe the double ruck critics will make like Ludwig Leichhardt and disappear for a bit.

[lwjoyner]

reckon we might have the coleman medalist. Lloyd mustbe winning todate, the number of goals he gives away is annoying.

[MattW]

The you tube video "The round so Far" Said we can go all the way and then showed a list of Players are under 26. The list was quite impressive. Still find it hard to believe that Gulden is only 19 and Warner only 20.

Yes, they're @@@@ing gems.

[dejavoodoo44]

Yes, they're @@@@ing gems.

And Blakey, who's been a gun since he moved to defence, is still only 22. And Tom McCartin, who seems like a player well into his prime and an experienced pillar of our defence, is also 22. While the person who is now possibly our midfield leader, Mills, has just turned 25. Then there's Heeney, who having entered discussions as the best player in the competition, is still only 25.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Does young Hayden not normally play on the main interceptor to take them away from the play and/or make them accountable?

Depending on the side, and sometimes the player, he or Hayward does. They’ve both done it well at times.

[Nico]

I had a look at the replay last night.

Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
Tom McCartin played a blinder.
Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
The big ground suits us.

[MattW]

I had a look at the replay last night.

Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
Tom McCartin played a blinder.
Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
The big ground suits us.

Great post - agree with every line.

[MattW]

Little love for Logan from King here: Fox Footy on Twitter: "The First Crack crew had sparkling things to say about Sydney last night, dubbing Logan McDonald as this round's most impressive young talent ????

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That cannon will be in our top 5 goals of the year.

[Faunac8]

I had a look at the replay last night.

Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
Tom McCartin played a blinder.
Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
The big ground suits us.

Hard to disagree with anything you have said and it’s really good to see Benny deliver what he has in the last two weeks.
Many had written him off without realising or factoring in the injury issues he has overcome in the last couple of years.
No one kicks 7 goals in an AFL game without having some ability, actually, no one gets a game at that level without being a talented player.
However talent will only take you so far and so many other factors need to be added to the mix for a player to have a career at the top level.
Some of us rate certain skills or abilities higher than others and that is just the way we are.
It’s just human nature to value certain attributes differently to how others rate them.
What seems to be appreciated by the match committee is that he has overcome injury obstacles and worked at his game to meet the needs of the team. Now it may be early days but the as long as he continues to work as hard as he has and fulfills the role assigned to him I think he will have a position in the team for a while yet.
I would add JMac as worthy of mention as well
his last quarter was immense.
30 players on our list under 26 makes me excited to be a supporter of this team.
Go Swans !!!!

[MattW]

West Coast v Sydney

10 Callum Mills (SYD)
7 Peter Ladhams (SYD)
5 Luke Parker (SYD)
5 Justin McInerney (SYD)
2 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
1 Jake Lloyd (SYD)

LEADERBOARD

29 Andrew Brayshaw FRE
26 Christian Petracca MELB
25 Patrick Cripps CARL
24 Bailey Smith WB
22 Jordan De Goey COLL
22 Lachie Neale BL
21 Jeremy McGovern WCE
21 Touk Miller GCFC
21 Callum Mills SYD
21 Clayton Oliver MELB
18 Shai Bolton RICH
18 Max Gawn MELB
17 Tom Green GWS
17 Isaac Heeney SYD
17 Jack Higgins STK
17 Steven May MELB
16 Jack Crisp COLL
16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW
16 Darcy Parish ESS
16 Jack Sinclair STK
16 Jack Steele STK

Source: AFL site

[dejavoodoo44]

Parker and McInerney are just off the pace, as well, with 15 votes each.

[TheBloods]

West Coast v Sydney

10 Callum Mills (SYD)
7 Peter Ladhams (SYD)
5 Luke Parker (SYD)
5 Justin McInerney (SYD)
2 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
1 Jake Lloyd (SYD)

LEADERBOARD

29 Andrew Brayshaw FRE
26 Christian Petracca MELB
25 Patrick Cripps CARL
24 Bailey Smith WB
22 Jordan De Goey COLL
22 Lachie Neale BL
21 Jeremy McGovern WCE
21 Touk Miller GCFC
21 Callum Mills SYD
21 Clayton Oliver MELB
18 Shai Bolton RICH
18 Max Gawn MELB
17 Tom Green GWS
17 Isaac Heeney SYD
17 Jack Higgins STK
17 Steven May MELB
16 Jack Crisp COLL
16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW
16 Darcy Parish ESS
16 Jack Sinclair STK
16 Jack Steele STK

Source: AFL site

No small fwds or talls getting many votes for us this yr . Need that to change if we want to go deep

[AB Swannie]

No small fwds or talls getting many votes for us this yr . Need that to change if we want to go deep

How many small fwds and talls are on that list?

[TheBloods]

How many small fwds and talls are on that list?

Not saying they need to be in the best in the comp but its a good sign if you have a small or tall fwd getting votes . They are the kinds of barometers for a team . Dont think we 've had any yet , besides Bud in rd 2

[Roadrunner]

Not saying they need to be in the best in the comp but its a good sign if you have a small or tall fwd getting votes . They are the kinds of barometers for a team . Dont think we 've had any yet , besides Bud in rd 2

Midfielders tend to dominate as they are more in the play and hence dominate possessions. But you knew that, right?