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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    Originally posted by Swanny40519
    I agree that Lloyd's kick outs are not up to scratch and in most games he serves up some very ordinary kicks from goal. Even in general play he seems to take forever when he has to kick, and most times are high floating kicks that put our players under pressure.
    Campbell should take all the kick outs from goal in future.
    Agreed, if Campbell is going to play down back and can handle the preassure of taking the kick ins - he should do so.

    Originally posted by Nico
    If Ladhams continues his form they will both play. 2 dominant rucks around the ground are invaluable. A tall forward will need to make way.
    Nice to hear Nico, I think the tide may be turning slightly on the 2 ruckman debate.
    Amongst the football media, Gawn/Jackson (and Marshall/Ryder) seem to be demonstrating the potentiality of 2 rucks to those that have forgotten.
    As a card carrying member of the Paul-Roos-2-Rucks school of thought, I'm a bit over the you-only-need-one-ruckman chorus - maybe the double ruck critics will make like Ludwig Leichhardt and disappear for a bit.
    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 18 April 2022, 06:25 AM.

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    • lwjoyner
      Regular in the Side
      • Nov 2004
      • 942

      reckon we might have the coleman medalist. Lloyd mustbe winning todate, the number of goals he gives away is annoying.

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4195

        Originally posted by crackedactor 01
        The you tube video "The round so Far" Said we can go all the way and then showed a list of Players are under 26. The list was quite impressive. Still find it hard to believe that Gulden is only 19 and Warner only 20.
        Yes, they're @@@@ing gems.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8492

          Originally posted by MattW
          Yes, they're @@@@ing gems.
          And Blakey, who's been a gun since he moved to defence, is still only 22. And Tom McCartin, who seems like a player well into his prime and an experienced pillar of our defence, is also 22. While the person who is now possibly our midfield leader, Mills, has just turned 25. Then there's Heeney, who having entered discussions as the best player in the competition, is still only 25.

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          • i'm-uninformed2
            Reefer Madness
            • Oct 2003
            • 4653

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            Does young Hayden not normally play on the main interceptor to take them away from the play and/or make them accountable?
            Depending on the side, and sometimes the player, he or Hayward does. They’ve both done it well at times.
            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11329

              I had a look at the replay last night.

              Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
              Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
              Tom McCartin played a blinder.
              Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
              Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
              James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
              The big ground suits us.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4195

                Originally posted by Nico
                I had a look at the replay last night.

                Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
                Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
                Tom McCartin played a blinder.
                Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
                Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
                James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
                The big ground suits us.
                Great post - agree with every line.

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4195

                  Little love for Logan from King here: Fox Footy on Twitter: "The First Crack crew had sparkling things to say about Sydney last night, dubbing Logan McDonald as this round's most impressive young talent ????

                  Musashi Nutrition. Performance Amplified.… https://t.co/Pcq25npkOP"
                  .

                  That cannon will be in our top 5 goals of the year.

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                  • Faunac8
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1548

                    Originally posted by Nico
                    I had a look at the replay last night.

                    Gulden was outstanding for all but part of the 3rd quarter.
                    Warner's clean centre clearances were a highlight.
                    Tom McCartin played a blinder.
                    Ben Ronke was excellent. Ran to space, clean ball handling, excellent delivery and was in everything when the ball hit the ground. His forward defensive work was serious stuff. Unless he loses all form I doubt Wicks can take his place. As a small forward his defensive side is way ahead of Wicks, and he wins his own footy. With Ronke in this form and Papley coming back our forward line looks very dangerous.
                    Peter Ladham's first half was very good.
                    James Rowbottom did a lot of grunt work and was consistent across 4 quarters and covered a lot of ground.
                    The big ground suits us.
                    Hard to disagree with anything you have said and it’s really good to see Benny deliver what he has in the last two weeks.
                    Many had written him off without realising or factoring in the injury issues he has overcome in the last couple of years.
                    No one kicks 7 goals in an AFL game without having some ability, actually, no one gets a game at that level without being a talented player.
                    However talent will only take you so far and so many other factors need to be added to the mix for a player to have a career at the top level.
                    Some of us rate certain skills or abilities higher than others and that is just the way we are.
                    It’s just human nature to value certain attributes differently to how others rate them.
                    What seems to be appreciated by the match committee is that he has overcome injury obstacles and worked at his game to meet the needs of the team. Now it may be early days but the as long as he continues to work as hard as he has and fulfills the role assigned to him I think he will have a position in the team for a while yet.
                    I would add JMac as worthy of mention as well
                    his last quarter was immense.
                    30 players on our list under 26 makes me excited to be a supporter of this team.
                    Go Swans !!!!

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4195

                      West Coast v Sydney

                      10 Callum Mills (SYD)
                      7 Peter Ladhams (SYD)
                      5 Luke Parker (SYD)
                      5 Justin McInerney (SYD)
                      2 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
                      1 Jake Lloyd (SYD)

                      LEADERBOARD

                      29 Andrew Brayshaw FRE
                      26 Christian Petracca MELB
                      25 Patrick Cripps CARL
                      24 Bailey Smith WB
                      22 Jordan De Goey COLL
                      22 Lachie Neale BL
                      21 Jeremy McGovern WCE
                      21 Touk Miller GCFC
                      21 Callum Mills SYD
                      21 Clayton Oliver MELB
                      18 Shai Bolton RICH
                      18 Max Gawn MELB
                      17 Tom Green GWS
                      17 Isaac Heeney SYD
                      17 Jack Higgins STK
                      17 Steven May MELB
                      16 Jack Crisp COLL
                      16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW
                      16 Darcy Parish ESS
                      16 Jack Sinclair STK
                      16 Jack Steele STK

                      Source: AFL site

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8492

                        Parker and McInerney are just off the pace, as well, with 15 votes each.

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Originally posted by MattW
                          West Coast v Sydney

                          10 Callum Mills (SYD)
                          7 Peter Ladhams (SYD)
                          5 Luke Parker (SYD)
                          5 Justin McInerney (SYD)
                          2 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
                          1 Jake Lloyd (SYD)

                          LEADERBOARD

                          29 Andrew Brayshaw FRE
                          26 Christian Petracca MELB
                          25 Patrick Cripps CARL
                          24 Bailey Smith WB
                          22 Jordan De Goey COLL
                          22 Lachie Neale BL
                          21 Jeremy McGovern WCE
                          21 Touk Miller GCFC
                          21 Callum Mills SYD
                          21 Clayton Oliver MELB
                          18 Shai Bolton RICH
                          18 Max Gawn MELB
                          17 Tom Green GWS
                          17 Isaac Heeney SYD
                          17 Jack Higgins STK
                          17 Steven May MELB
                          16 Jack Crisp COLL
                          16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW
                          16 Darcy Parish ESS
                          16 Jack Sinclair STK
                          16 Jack Steele STK

                          Source: AFL site
                          No small fwds or talls getting many votes for us this yr . Need that to change if we want to go deep

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                          • AB Swannie
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 1579

                            Originally posted by TheBloods
                            No small fwds or talls getting many votes for us this yr . Need that to change if we want to go deep
                            How many small fwds and talls are on that list?

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              Originally posted by AB Swannie
                              How many small fwds and talls are on that list?
                              Not saying they need to be in the best in the comp but its a good sign if you have a small or tall fwd getting votes . They are the kinds of barometers for a team . Dont think we 've had any yet , besides Bud in rd 2

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                              • Roadrunner
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 1447

                                Originally posted by TheBloods
                                Not saying they need to be in the best in the comp but its a good sign if you have a small or tall fwd getting votes . They are the kinds of barometers for a team . Dont think we 've had any yet , besides Bud in rd 2
                                Midfielders tend to dominate as they are more in the play and hence dominate possessions. But you knew that, right?

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