Rd 10 vs Carlton Blues Friday 7:50PM @ Marvel - Pre-Game Thread

[stevoswan]

He already has his own name . He is The Chad and if you 've been to SCG anytime in last 2 yrs you will know the buzz that goes around the crowd every time he is near it .

He doesn't need to work on his defence , thats not his job . Dusty has not spent 1 minute of his career worrying about his opponent and he never will . Leave that to the lesser blokes and let the best talents do their thing . It worked for Richmond , 3 BOGs in 3 grand finals says it all

Doesn't mean the Swans will put up with the same from 'the' Chad. I agree with you to let him do his thing but when it is time for him to put in a defensive effort, I'd like to see that happen....and I'm sure the coaches would too. We don't see it enough and at times he looks a little 'fair weather'.

I'll go further and say that if he doesn't lift in this area, he will never captain the Swans.

[TheBloods]

Doesn't mean the Swans will put up with the same from 'the' Chad. I agree with you to let him do his thing but when it is time for him to put in a defensive effort, I'd like to see that happen....and I'm sure the coaches would too. We don't see it enough and at times he looks a little 'fair weather'.

I'll go further and say that if he doesn't lift in this area, he will never captain the Swans.

WTF , he is averaging 1 less tackle a game than RB and that is all RB does and 1 more tackle than Parker who is captain ! So what are you on about . You know what makes a captain ? Someone who leads by example , Chads not even played 30 games but hes shown plenty of times we have been dead on the ropes and it 's been his brilliance that 's given us a spark . He is top 5 in coaches votes for us , key word COACHES votes , same number of votes as our current CAPTAIN so he is doing everything right .

[stevoswan]

WTF , he is averaging 1 less tackle a game than RB and that is all RB does and 1 more tackle than Parker who is captain ! So what are you on about . You know what makes a captain ? Someone who leads by example , Chads not even played 30 games but hes shown plenty of times we have been dead on the ropes and it 's been his brilliance that 's given us a spark . He is top 5 in coaches votes for us , key word COACHES votes , same number of votes as our current CAPTAIN so he is doing everything right .

Not everything. One percenters TB. James will never have Chad's brilliance and he will never be captain but he will always have it over Chad in this area. One percenters don't get noticed by most fickle fans (and vindictive one's it seems) or get votes but they do get noticed by coaches and he keeps getting selected.

[TheBloods]

Not everything. One percenters TB. James will never have Chad's brilliance and he will never be captain but he will always have it over Chad in this area. One percenters don't get noticed by most fickle fans or get votes but they do get noticed by coaches and he keeps getting selected.

We are talking about CHAD

Not about 1%ers or RB .

[stevoswan]

We are talking about CHAD

Not about 1%ers or RB .

But you keep comparing him with RB. I didn't even mention RB in my post regarding Chad's lack of defensive efforts but you did in your reply, so apparently, you are talking about RB (again)....so what is the responder to do? I'd go as far as saying the coaches would say he leads by example. So many others see it too.

[Faunac8]

WTF , he is averaging 1 less tackle a game than RB and that is all RB does and 1 more tackle than Parker who is captain ! So what are you on about . You know what makes a captain ? Someone who leads by example , Chads not even played 30 games but hes shown plenty of times we have been dead on the ropes and it 's been his brilliance that 's given us a spark . He is top 5 in coaches votes for us , key word COACHES votes , same number of votes as our current CAPTAIN so he is doing everything right .

And there it is ????
I don’t think anyone thinks James is a more dynamic player than Chad but they fill different roles.
Chad definitely seems to have more upside and we all agree he is a potential star.
Where you get people offside is that you never miss an opportunity to take a potshot at a player that 90% of supporters and, more importantly, the coaching staff rate as part of our best 22.
I am trying my best not to get sucked in but I can’t let your persistent denigration go unanswered.

[TheBloods]

But you keep comparing him with RB. I didn't even mention RB in my post regarding Chad's lack of defensive efforts but you did in your reply, so apparently, you are talking about RB (again)....so what is the responder to do?

I also mentioned Parker ! Showing that Chad stacks up just fine defensively and captain-wise with RB who is defensive and Parker who is captain .

You tried to say he wasnt defensive enough but hes nearly on par with the bloke who is only defensive , and you tried to say he wouldnt be captain because of it but hes doing better defensively than the bloke who is captain .

[stevoswan]

I also mentioned Parker ! Showing that Chad stacks up just fine defensively and captain-wise with RB who is defensive and Parker who is captain .

You tried to say he wasnt defensive enough but hes nearly on par with the bloke who is only defensive , and you tried to say he wouldnt be captain because of it but hes doing better defensively than the bloke who is captain .

You quote only tackle counts, I mention one percenters....these are the things coaches love (and take note of). RB is relentless in everything he does as is Parker, Chad not so much defensively. Of course Chad will tackle if he has to.....if he didn't he'd be dropped.

[TheBloods]

You quote only tackle counts, I mention one percenters....these are the things coaches love (and take note of). RB is relentless in everything he does as is Parker, Chad not so much defensively. Of course Chad will tackle if he has to.....if he didn't he'd be dropped.

Ridiculous .

[stevoswan]

Ridiculous .

You reckon? Honestly?

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I don't think having played the game is a prerequisite for making sensible comments, how many games has Liz played?

You do realise that women's footy has been played for decades. Dangerous assumption you make there. You may be right but you can't just assume these things.

1) Actually yes, I have some awareness of Women's football, for example, the earliest date for a game involving a Swans women's team that I could find (when I last researched the subject) was in 1947, reports from the time indicated that 25,000 attended.
2) I wasn't making any assumption about Liz's playing career (or otherwise) - I asked a question (it had a question makr and everything).
3) In fact, I didn't even make an assumption about Liz's gender, I don't believe we've ever met, so I avoided the use of a personal pronown in my post.

I think you just assumed I was making assumtions. LOL

For all I know "Liz" could actually be the non-de-RWO of a strapping 6'9" stone former ruckman from Wanthaggi - the number of horror stories I've heard from friends about false profiles on eHarmony, one just never knows.

The only thing I do know about "Liz" is that his/her (couldn't avoid that one) posts (and occasional chastising PM's) are worth reading.

[TheBloods]

You reckon? Honestly?

Yes , it is ridiculous we are having this conversation . You read my whole comment that was positive about Chad and chose to go on about one area where hes not outstanding , and make that a reason why he cant be captain . Spare me.

[stevoswan]

Yes , it is ridiculous we are having this conversation . You read my whole comment that was positive about Chad and chose to go on about one area where hes not outstanding , and make that a reason why he cant be captain . Spare me.

It's the one area a 'captain' should always be good at and setting an example to his team mates with. It's one of the many reasons Mills is co-captain. This is relevant because you mentioned RB as a comparison....and this is an area that RB definitely has it over Chad.

Stop mentioning RB in your Chad posts and I will stop comparing them.

[stevoswan]

1) Actually yes, I have some awareness of Women's football, for example, the earliest date for a game involving a Swans women's team that I could find (when I last researched the subject) was in 1947, reports from the time indicated that 25,000 attended.
2) I wasn't making any assumption about Liz's playing career (or otherwise) - I asked a question (it had a question makr and everything).
3) In fact, I didn't even make an assumption about Liz's gender, I don't believe we've ever met, so I avoided the use of a personal pronown in my post.

I think you just assumed I was making assumtions. LOL

For all I know "Liz" could actually be the non-de-RWO of a strapping 6'9" stone former ruckman from Wanthaggi - the number of horror stories I've heard from friends about false profiles on eHarmony, one just never knows.

The only thing I do know about "Liz" is that his/her (couldn't avoid that one) posts (and occasional chastising PM's) are worth reading.

I did assume some things and I accept the crux of this post.

[bloodspirit]

I think Chad is being underrated defensively. There is room for improvement but he is quite alright - with tackling and one percenters. Anyway, Chad's playing the role that's asked of him (and that plays to his strengths). In his draft years Chad played less flashily and more defensively with impressive smothers and other one percenters.

Likewise, I think RB's offence is underrated. He's a decent kick and uses the ball reasonably well given he's in an inside role.