Rnd 15 Pre-Match Thread, vs St Kilda

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  • Mark26
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2017
    • 1535

    #91
    Originally posted by Swanny40519
    Very conservative approach by the selectors. Yes Clarke has played well in the VFL but in most of the senior games he has played, the level of performance has not been good.

    I am not sure what Gould, Fox or Armety have to do to get a game.
    It's very ordinary isn't it? So we hold onto fading senior players in the hope they'll come good, while encouraging young talent to walk out the door.

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      #92
      Horse said it's important to have competition for spots this week in his press conference. What a load of @@@@. After last week's effort, you'd expect a more significant change than our team selection.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #93
        Originally posted by Swanny40519
        Very conservative approach by the selectors. Yes Clarke has played well in the VFL but in most of the senior games he has played, the level of performance has not been good.

        I am not sure what Gould, Fox or Armety have to do to get a game.
        I'm all for Gould, Fox and Amartey getting a game, and have said so, but without many injuries, it's a hard side to break into. The one player everyone wanted out, Wicks, has indeed been replaced. It's hard to find another player who deserves to be dropped.

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        • Markwebbos
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          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          #94
          I think they’d give most players a second chance after we knocked off the Tigers and Demons in the previous two games.

          People seem very trigger happy after #Ladhamsgate

          We are consistently poor after the bye. I’m happy to see if they can’t turn things around this week.

          So are they going to make Clarke play as a defensive forward? Or move someone else up there?

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          • Mel_C
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4470

            #95
            Stevic is back ?

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            • SwanSand
              Regular in the Side
              • Aug 2020
              • 525

              #96
              Originally posted by Ludwig
              I'm all for Gould, Fox and Amartey getting a game, and have said so, but without many injuries, it's a hard side to break into. The one player everyone wanted out, Wicks, has indeed been replaced. It's hard to find another player who deserves to be dropped.
              Clarke gets a game after doing as well as he could at a lower level. He is not very good in disposals but probably has good endurance to cover the ground. Problem is that if he plays in front half, are we expecting him to be defensive minded and just shut down a half back coz I doubt he will be able to do that. Anyways moment of truth for him. If he is terrible that may be his last chance.

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              • The Big Cat
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                • Apr 2006
                • 2355

                #97
                Originally posted by Mel_C
                Stevic is back ?
                Plus ex-saint Leigh Fisher
                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                • 707
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  #98
                  Hickey for naughty boy is logical, no Paddy Ryder helps.

                  We've been wanting Wicks dropped and he's been demoted.

                  Campbell needs to be played at senior level, stop stuffing him around.

                  Clarke, ball magnet at VFL level, are we tagging someone? or will he just be allowed to do his own thing on a wing.

                  If we can't win this then the win against the Dees has been wasted, we'll be in the mash of teams jostling for the bottom of the eight, grrrr

                  Good news at selection for the Saints with Stevic playing for them, expect a lot of 50/50 calls to go Saints way, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
                  Last edited by liz; 24 June 2022, 12:00 PM. Reason: deleted response to now-deleted post

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16758

                    #99
                    Clarke was very very good last week in the VFL side. Not just good. Very very good. He got loads of the ball (as usual), played unselfish, constructive football (not unusual for him). And his disposal, particularly by foot, was excellent (not so usual for him).

                    Sure, the pressure wasn't great but he demonstrated he can actually kick the ball in a technical sense (something I've wondered about before) and hit targets.

                    I'm happy for him to get another chance. We know he'll run all day and tackle all day, which, after last week, is something the team could do with an injection of. He may well get a defensive role on someone. There are a few in the Saints team worthy (though the omission of Hill removes one).

                    It's likely also true that if he doesn't go well this week, he might not get another chance.

                    My fingers (and toes) are crossed for him.

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                    • MattW
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                      • May 2011
                      • 4211

                      Originally posted by 707
                      Is he at CHF for us?

                      Hickey for naughty boy is logical, no Paddy Ryder helps.

                      We've been wanting Wicks dropped and he's been demoted.

                      Campbell needs to be played at senior level, stop stuffing him around.

                      Clarke, ball magnet at VFL level, are we tagging someone? or will he just be allowed to do his own thing on a wing.

                      If we can't win this then the win against the Dees has been wasted, we'll be in the mash of teams jostling for the bottom of the eight, grrrr

                      Good news at selection for the Saints with Stevic playing for them, expect a lot of 50/50 calls to go Saints way, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
                      Yes: must win.

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                      • liz
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                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16758

                        Originally posted by 707

                        If we can't win this then the win against the Dees has been wasted, we'll be in the mash of teams jostling for the bottom of the eight, grrrr
                        I think we already are. But the outcome of this game (and the return fixture against the Saints) will go a long way to determining which side of the cut-off we finish.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
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                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8578

                          Originally posted by Mel_C
                          Stevic is back ?
                          Part of me wants to say, that he's been pretty good the last couple of times that we had him, but another part of me, feels like that might doom us to a performance that's truly awful.

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                          • MattW
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                            • May 2011
                            • 4211

                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            Part of me wants to say, that he's been pretty good the last couple of times that we had him, but another part of me, feels like that might doom us to a performance that's truly awful.
                            Yeah, he has.

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              Originally posted by MattW
                              Essentially:
                              - Campbell for O'Riordan
                              - Hickey for Ladhams
                              - Clarke for Wicks.
                              I'm hoping it is actually different to this. That is:

                              Hickey for Ladhams
                              Florent for O'Riordan
                              Clarke for Florent
                              Campbell for Wicks

                              One of the turning points last year was when one of our super talented youngsters (Blakey) was deployed in a different role after the bye with great success. I'm hoping that the same can happen this year with Campbell playing forward of the ball.

                              I'm a big fan of reward for effort. Clarke deserves his chance. I also reckon Fox does for the same reasons so I hope he's our emergency.

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                              • Ludwig
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by AB Swannie
                                I'm hoping it is actually different to this. That is:

                                Hickey for Ladhams
                                Florent for O'Riordan
                                Clarke for Florent
                                Campbell for Wicks
                                I suspect this is right. Well, it's the way I would do it if it were up to me.

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