Round 15: the other games. The 'what are the odds of that' round.

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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8652

    General footy chat Round 15: the other games. The 'what are the odds of that' round.

    Something of a blockbuster round, in that all of the teams in the eight play another team in the eight. And it's generally quite adjacent, as well: 1 v 2, 3 v 5, 4 v 6 and 7 v 8. It's also pretty adjacent for the teams outside the eight, with them all playing against opponents in much the same part of the ladder. I'm not sure how to do the maths, but the AFL site says that since the introduction of the top eight, there's only been five rounds in 29 years where the top eight teams have all played each other. Which on an entirely superficial analysis, possibly makes the chances of that happening a bit over 100 to 1? Remarkable, but not exceptionally remarkable. What would be exceptional, if it randomly occurred that the games were 1 v 2, 3 v 4, 5 v 6 and so on, down to 17 v 18. Once again, not entirely sure of the maths, but I suspect it would be 17 x 15 x 13 x 11 x 9 x 7 x 5 x 3 x 1. Which appears to be 34,459,424 to 1. Hmmm, don't think that I'll be calling Sports Bet.

    Anyway, the football opens with 1 v 2; with Brisbane being 1 and Melbourne being 2. Many people feel that this is a grand final preview, which might be the case, but sort of ignores the fact that Melbourne have lost their last three and Brisbane have lost two of their last four. Some people also say that getting May back will be a big boost for Melbourne, but that would have to be counterbalanced by Gawn being gone. Brisbane have also got a couple of important injuries (which is rare for them) with Zorko and Bailey going out. No idea who's going to win, so let's just hope that football is the winner.

    Strangely, the AFL appears to have scheduled two Friday night games. The first is the Bulldogs v the Hawks. Not that long ago, I would have gone for anyone but Hawthorn, but after a few years of mediocrity, I despise them less.

    The other Friday game is the Eagles hosting the Bombers. After having a highly spirited upset win over the Saints last week, I can easily see the Bombers losing this one, just to finish the job of driving their supporters absolutely bat@@@@ crazy.

    The first Saturday match features perhaps the two surprise packets of the season, Carlton and Fremantle. Which shapes as a very important match. Will the talent packed but previously underachieving Carlton establish themselves as a genuine finals side? Or will a Fremantle side that has recently beaten Melbourne and Brisbane without Nat Fyfe, be even more of a contender now that Fyfe is fit?

    Another blockbuster is next up with Geelong hosting Richmond at...err...the MCG. No idea who I want to win that?

    That's followed by our perhaps season defining clash with St Kilda.

    The first Sunday game is between two teams that have already defined their seasons as disasters: North and Adelaide.

    Next up is another clash in which I have no idea who I'd prefer to win: the overachieving Magpies or the underachieving Giants?

    And finally it's another game that should be a quality encounter: Port v Gold Coast. Will the Power continue their charge or will it finally be the year that the Suns make the eight?
  • TheBloods
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Feb 2020
    • 2047

    #2
    Big round , we will see who is up for it and who isnt

    4 winners out of this round should be flag favourites

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    • i'm-uninformed2
      Reefer Madness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4653

      #3
      cheering on any result that helps us.

      Plus go North. Remind The Rat was a crappy future he has.
      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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      • dejavoodoo44
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2015
        • 8652

        #4
        Looks like it might be a nasty broken rib or two to Lyons. You could pretty well see the pain in every breath.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8652

          #5
          Seems like Lyons is coming back on. Which truly surprises me.

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          • neilfws
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2009
            • 1826

            #6
            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
            Seems like Lyons is coming back on. Which truly surprises me.
            Same! Looked in all sorts of trouble when he came off. Maybe just bruised and winded, but wouldn't surprise me if they find a crack later.

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8652

              #7
              Originally posted by neilfws
              Same! Looked in all sorts of trouble when he came off. Maybe just bruised and winded, but wouldn't surprise me if they find a crack later.
              Yes, the flying knee looked a definite rib breaker. Maybe they gave him an effective local anaesthetic? But still, if it's just a small break, then another knock would probably make it a large break.

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              • TheBloods
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Feb 2020
                • 2047

                #8
                Demons have some young stars , Jordon , Jackson, Pickett all fantastic talents

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8652

                  #9
                  Surprisingly one sided game. Fremantle up to second on the live ladder.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    Demons have some young stars , Jordon , Jackson, Pickett all fantastic talents
                    We could have drafted James Jordan in 2018, but traded up to get Rowbottom. Their profiles and stats are remarkably close, but Jordan has played 19 fewer games, so he looks a bit ahead on that basis alone. It will be interesting to see how they go over their respective careers. Melbourne also picked up Tom Sparrow in the same 2nd round of the 2018 draft. Good work on their part. There are often excellent picks in the 2nd round of drafts. It can make a big difference to team development when it goes right.

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                    • SwanSand
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 526

                      #11
                      Based on this performance itself, Brisbane will have to do a lot more from now on to win the flag. They are too small in the midfield and they have had the same problem for years now. Get beaten in the middle by big bodies. Also they are very poor in kicking for a top 4 side.

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                      • longmile
                        Crumber
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3367

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SwanSand
                        Based on this performance itself, Brisbane will have to do a lot more from now on to win the flag. They are too small in the midfield and they have had the same problem for years now. Get beaten in the middle by big bodies. Also they are very poor in kicking for a top 4 side.
                        Brisbane have to be the most overrated team of the last 3 years. Choke against any top team.

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                        • neilfws
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1826

                          #13
                          Looks like the good Demons are back - a very "footy pundit" thing to say on the back of one game If there are teams where one player makes a huge difference, I think you could argue that it's the Demons + Steven May.

                          Brisbane were far from their best, but I still don't know that their best is good enough to go all the way. I generally enjoy watching them but they have a "scrappiness" about them, especially under pressure, that the genuine top teams don't have.

                          Interesting that the Lions haven't won at the MCG since 2014. They don't play there much, 1-2 games a year and none in 2021, but it's one of those streaks I'm sure they'd like to break.

                          I'm looking forward to the rest of the round, having the top 8 teams playing each other is an interesting test of where they're all at going into the second half of the season.

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SwanSand
                            Based on this performance itself, Brisbane will have to do a lot more from now on to win the flag. They are too small in the midfield and they have had the same problem for years now. Get beaten in the middle by big bodies. Also they are very poor in kicking for a top 4 side.
                            Missing Zorko and Bailey last night but they aren't making up 50 points
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Sandridge
                              Outer wing, Lake Oval
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2083

                              #15
                              Bulldogs leading free kick count 6 to 1 at quarter time but still losing.

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