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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    #61
    Qatar Airways criteria for offering sponsorships:

    • Tangible impact on the community Socially responsible events focused on the local community
    • Brand enhancement Long-term partnerships with other prestigious brands
    • Clearly identifiable benefits Return on investment, media exposure and publicity
    • Revenue-generating potential Exposure to Qatar Airways' target markets and segments


    They also say: "Qatar Airways will not consider association with, or sponsorship of, activities related to politics, religious affairs, extreme sports (i.e. wrestling and boxing), unfair competition, explicit content or images, negative behaviour".





    Article about Bayern Munich fans who are critical of their club for accepting Qatar Airways sponsorship: https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...bdd7d681c1c581.
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    • KTigers
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2012
      • 2499

      #62
      Phew! They (Qatar) have got standards. That's a relief.

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      • Kafka's Ghost
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2017
        • 903

        #63
        Originally posted by liz
        On the sponsorship issue, the world becomes hard to navigate if you only do business with / interact with / socialise with people or organisations that share all your values. Where to draw the line is as much an individual (or organisational) choice as those underlying values are. It would be problematic (for me) if the Swans' sponsorship with Qatar Airlines was contingent on them espousing the Qatari government's values and thus not participating in the Pride Game, which is not the case.
        True up to a point. Personally I have a couple of fast rules about who gets my hard-earned that I never stray from. One for many years has been the Murdoch “press”, whilst a more recent addition has been Harvey Norman.
        As for airlines, whilst not completely boycotted, Qantas’ recent performance has been so poor it’s no longer on the preferred list either. Although that’s motivated by its bad service, not any political/ethical position.


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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #64
          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll


          Yep I'd be stunned if there wasn't someone on this board that doesn't regard insurance companies as being beyond the pale.
          I lol at people who dislike insurance companies. Because they totally misunderstand the transaction.
          You are buying peace of mind, you will not make money out of it.
          Its a hedge against bad luck. Nothing more.

          If it doesn't give you the peace of mind you want, don't buy it.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #65
            Qatar

            Netballers and cricketers taking a stand against unethical sponsors.

            Time for some swans players to also take a stand?

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4049

              #66
              Originally posted by barry
              Netballers and cricketers taking a stand against unethical sponsors.

              Time for some swans players to also take a stand?
              Pandora's box- where do you stop? What about AFL's addiction to gambling and alcohol industries just for starters?

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                #67
                I believe I raised Qatar Airlines some time back. Even more pointed after the Bombers got rid of Thorburn because he was in a leadership role of a church that is homophobic.

                I certainly don’t like them being our sponsor and the club promoting Qatar etc.

                There will be heaps of attention on Qatars human rights record once the World Cup gets going,

                Rightly so

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                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                Pandora's box- where do you stop? What about AFL's addiction to gambling and alcohol industries just for starters?
                Gambling is 100% wrong and unethical too.

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                • Meg
                  Go Swannies!
                  Site Admin
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4828

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Markwebbos



                  Gambling is 100% wrong and unethical too.
                  Swans have already taken a strong stance against gambling sponsorship through our partnership with Gambling Aware.

                  ‘Tom Harley, Chief Executive Officer of the Sydney Swans said the club was thrilled to be working in partnership with the NSW Government’s Reclaim the Game initiative to raise awareness of the risks associated with gambling.

                  “The focus of our partnership is on addressing the normalisation of sports betting and as part of this, Swans matches at the SCG will not feature gambling advertising or sponsorship,” Mr Harley said.

                  Fans of two high-profile NSW sports teams will soon be able to enjoy games free of betting ads under a new partnership with the Office of Responsible Gambling.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4049

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Meg
                    Swans have already taken a strong stance against gambling sponsorship through our partnership with Gambling Aware.

                    ‘Tom Harley, Chief Executive Officer of the Sydney Swans said the club was thrilled to be working in partnership with the NSW Government’s Reclaim the Game initiative to raise awareness of the risks associated with gambling.

                    “The focus of our partnership is on addressing the normalisation of sports betting and as part of this, Swans matches at the SCG will not feature gambling advertising or sponsorship,” Mr Harley said.

                    https://www.gambleaware.nsw.gov.au/n...ng-advertising
                    Excellent. Don't hold your breath for the AFL to follow suit. Vic government also in bed with the industry.

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                    • Bloods05
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1641

                      #70
                      All clubs accept gambling money from the AFL's sponsorship. It's a real contradiction.

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        #71
                        I wonder if those cricketers and netballers will be so willing to take a stand if it hits them in the hip pocket personally.

                        It's an admirable stance but not very pragmatic in the real world, and who is the arbitrator of what is an "acceptable" sponsorship

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16773

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Bloods05
                          All clubs accept gambling money from the AFL's sponsorship. It's a real contradiction.
                          Plus the media deals are largely driven by the revenue that broadcasters and content providers get from gambling advertising.

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                          • Bloods05
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1641

                            #73
                            Originally posted by caj23
                            I wonder if those cricketers and netballers will be so willing to take a stand if it hits them in the hip pocket personally.

                            It's an admirable stance but not very pragmatic in the real world, and who is the arbitrator of what is an "acceptable" sponsorship
                            We can't just leave it there. It's incumbent on all organisations - and all individuals - to make these judgements, all the time. The answer to your question is, all of us are the arbitrators and we need to work out collectively what is acceptable. Several clubs have done exactly this, often under pressure from club members, activists and the like, with regard to poker machines. There is no reason why a similar process can't work for gambling advertising.

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                            • Mr Magoo
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2008
                              • 1255

                              #74
                              Its ridiculous , anyone can stand up for what they believe in but no player is bigger than the team (or the game itself) and therefore provided they are prepared to forgo their role and their salary in the name of that virtue then fine , but a persons individual beliefs shouldn't trump the teams (or the whole game) and if sponsors leave and revenue falls then hes not only hurting himself , he will be hurting everyone in the game.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4049

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Bloods05
                                We can't just leave it there. It's incumbent on all organisations - and all individuals - to make these judgements, all the time. The answer to your question is, all of us are the arbitrators and we need to work out collectively what is acceptable. Several clubs have done exactly this, often under pressure from club members, activists and the like, with regard to poker machines. There is no reason why a similar process can't work for gambling advertising.
                                The advertising is at saturation point and it is very clever. Hopefully goes the way of cigarettes eventually. With the aim of getting as many young people as possible hooked, the token message of 'gamble responsibly' is a bad joke. Alcohol industry similar.

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