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  • i'm-uninformed2
    Reefer Madness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4653

    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    Since it seems that Liz hasn't posted about the game, it looks like you're actually leading today's 'voice of reason' award. I'm not sure how you feel about that? Pleased or desperately in need of intoxicants?
    As a functional alcoholic and occasional lover of a few other goodies, I’m always in need of intoxicants.

    But, I’m a bit frustrated without being as angry as others. We kick straight, we win.

    But we continue to learn about our list. Perhaps for the list management thread, but we do have a few gaps to fill.
    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8166

      Originally posted by Roadrunner
      Love Paps but his goal kicking from set shots is very erratic- his snaps are much more reliable. Practise, practice and more practice is the answer. Where’s Plugger when we need him?
      Got to call what his set shots are..... In general below par. He is elite in many other ways but his set shots have never been his strength at all


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      • mcs
        Travelling Swannie!!
        • Jul 2007
        • 8166

        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Spot on summary. I was at the game and to describe us as insipid is ludicrous. Essendon had a real crack and had a 75% conversion rate whilst we were below 50%. Rutten mentioned how they were very fortunate in the 3rd quarter when the ball lived at our end. Some of the reactions on here from the usual suspects are embarrassing.
        Exactly.

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        • Agent 86
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2004
          • 1689

          Originally posted by Blood Fever
          Spot on summary. I was at the game and to describe us as insipid is ludicrous. Essendon had a real crack and had a 75% conversion rate whilst we were below 50%. Rutten mentioned how they were very fortunate in the 3rd quarter when the ball lived at our end. Some of the reactions on here from the usual suspects are embarrassing.
          Have another look at how they kicked 5 goals in 10 minutes in the 2nd quarter. And then look up insipid in the dictionary.

          In that patch of play they had something like 20 marks to… er… 0. That’s zero. We fell asleep and the game was mentally lost during that period. Whether we won or lost the game from then on is pretty much irrelevant - it became a 50-50 proposition due to us falling away badly when we were in a position to put them away.

          Too often we can look like the better team for 3 quarters and lose it in 15 minute stretch where we concede 5 or 6 goals?

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8634

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            As a functional alcoholic and occasional lover of a few other goodies, I’m always in need of intoxicants.

            But, I’m a bit frustrated without being as angry as others. We kick straight, we win.

            But we continue to learn about our list. Perhaps for the list management thread, but we do have a few gaps to fill.
            Yeah, I've only listened to the game on radio, so I don't really want to comment about it too much. The constant behinds were doing my head in, but I don't think it's season over, nor is it cause to sack the coaches, or drop most of the players, etc.

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            • Swanny40519
              Regular in the side.
              • Oct 2012
              • 469

              Its been the pattern most of this year.. We cannot put in 4 qtr efforts - true we kicked badly in 3rd qtr, but in the 2nd and last qtrs we were not in the game. We were beaten badly in the centre and defence in those qtrs. We were unable to break even in contests and it showed in the final result. We have lost games to teams we should have won with a % boost, but for one reason or another we can find ways to loose those games.

              Isn't the old quote true anymore - bad kicking is bad football.

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4049

                Originally posted by Agent 86
                Have another look at how they kicked 5 goals in 10 minutes in the 2nd quarter. And then look up insipid in the dictionary.

                In that patch of play they had something like 20 marks to… er… 0. That’s zero. We fell asleep and the game was mentally lost during that period. Whether we won or lost the game from then on is pretty much irrelevant - it became a 50-50 proposition due to us falling away badly when we were in a position to put them away.

                Too often we can look like the better team for 3 quarters and lose it in 15 minute stretch where we concede 5 or 6 goals?
                Agree we took the foot of the pedal a bit early. Also true that we had 20 inside 50s in the third quarter and kicked 2.8. Many easy shots were missed. In the second quarter they did not miss once. Simple game sometimes. All teams get a run on at some stage. If we'd kicked straighter we have a sufficient buffer at 3/4 time regardless of what else happens in the game.

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                • Agent 86
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 1689

                  Rd 16 v Essendon Bombers @ MCG

                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  Yeah, I've only listened to the game on radio, so I don't really want to comment about it too much. The constant behinds were doing my head in, but I don't think it's season over, nor is it cause to sack the coaches, or drop most of the players, etc.
                  Yep. And many of our behinds were amongst our better kicks, sadly.

                  The season ain’t over til it’s over & I’m not even that angry about the result. The footy gods were on their side - they couldn’t miss and we couldn’t hit the side of… well anything.

                  I am a bit peeved that the vic media will be all over that Parker thing, however, so reckon I’ll not be reading much about the game from down there.

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                  • Maltopia
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1556

                    We lost by 9,

                    Papley kicked 1.3 and one that missed everything that travelled 30 meters or so. Franklin kicked one OOB on the full, but he played a good game early. There's two goals there that would have gotten us over the line.

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                    • Swannette
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 832

                      Of most concern is that these declines seem to be driven by mental lapses rather than any personnel changes. Why are they turning off? The kicking lapses are a by product of this, then it seems they start to panic and miss through anxiety rather than lack of focus. This was a prime example of the game being played between the ears.
                      Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.

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                      • Agent 86
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1689

                        Originally posted by Maltopia
                        We lost by 9,

                        Papley kicked 1.3 and one that missed everything that travelled 30 meters or so. Franklin kicked one OOB on the full, but he played a good game early. There's two goals there that would have gotten us over the line.
                        So what? We missed some shots we should’ve got and maybe a few of those could’ve got us over the line.

                        We conceded 5 goals within 10 minutes (with barely a stat across the whole team) and went from winners to losers in no time. What happens in those (all too frequent) periods? It’s like we’re not there.

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          Originally posted by Blood Fever
                          Spot on summary. I was at the game and to describe us as insipid is ludicrous. Essendon had a real crack and had a 75% conversion rate whilst we were below 50%. Rutten mentioned how they were very fortunate in the 3rd quarter when the ball lived at our end. Some of the reactions on here from the usual suspects are embarrassing.
                          What's embarrassing is a team with the chance to push for the top 4 losing to the third worst team in the competition, when they should have been 6 goals up early in the second qr.

                          This could have been a year when we had a silly chance of sneaking a flag. Instead, my gut tells me from here we'll be lucky to make the 8. But it's OK, we're a young team, we'll have another crack next year, right? BS. That's what they said when they choked in the final last year - beginning to think this isn't the group to take us where we want to be.

                          Deeply deeply disappointing and perhaps ultimately terrifically damaging result.

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            We play a lot like Adelaide of 2018

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              I picked a good game bit to watch because I had to work. Really didn’t expect that result and I’m disappointed about yet another missed opportunity.

                              Our record in milestone games suggests we had little chance of winning.

                              That and the fact we haven’t beaten Essendon at the MCG since 1923.

                              We are horribly inconsistent as a club and some of our players (Florent in particular) exemplify that? however some of that is a product of the evenness of the competition. There aren’t many easy wins to be had, it’s much harder to be consistent week in week out.

                              Has any side NOT had a form slump or lost to a lowly club this year?

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by Markwebbos



                                That and the fact we haven’t beaten Essendon at the MCG since 1923.

                                We are horribly inconsistent as a club and ...
                                Hang on, doesn't that mean we are consistent.

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