2022 Finals Week One Fixture

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Meg
    Go Swannies!
    Site Admin
    • Aug 2011
    • 4828

    #61
    Here is a recent article on the AFL video review system.

    “According to statistics provided by the AFL, there were 127 score reviews in the first 17 rounds of the season. Of those, 126 have been deemed correct. Thirty-two of the reviews resulted in an umpire’s decision being overturned. In simple terms, it means that one in four reviewed decisions involving a score would have been wrong without the aid of the video review system.”

    Comment

    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      #62
      I remember reading that. I don't buy 126/127 score reviews were correct. I think what they mean is that 126/127 were not unarguably wrong. Last night's score review is a good example. The AFL have deemed that the correct call was made by the score reviewers but there is no consensus around that opinion in the media, public or coaches etc.
      Last edited by bloodspirit; 2 September 2022, 06:35 AM.
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

      Comment

      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        #63
        Lachie Neale had 15 clearances last night. Man, he can play. Equal second best in a final since they started counting.
        JPK had 16 in the 2012 GF. Pity he couldn't just keep going on forever.
        Last edited by KTigers; 2 September 2022, 07:49 AM.

        Comment

        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #64
          Originally posted by KTigers
          ...Pity he couldn't just keep going on forever.
          The footage of Joey running the boundary has raised my hopes of a fairy tale finish for the legend https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch5-v..._web_copy_link
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

          Comment

          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            #65
            Articles like this Correct call afl says lynch goal review was right as hardwick lashes system makes me happy Horse is our coach. I mean, who couldn't see Hardwick whinging about something after that loss?
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

            Comment

            • DeadlyAkkuret
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2006
              • 4547

              #66
              Three flags in the last 5 years and he’s still a little bitch.


              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              Comment

              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #67
                Originally posted by RogueSwan
                Articles like this Correct call afl says lynch goal review was right as hardwick lashes system makes me happy Horse is our coach. I mean, who couldn't see Hardwick whinging about something after that loss?
                It was obviously a point by the reaction of all the players nearby and the guy who kicked it. The AFL community should be thanking the review system from an obvious goal umpire blunder.

                Comment

                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #68
                  Once Brisbane lost their ruckman, the outcome was never in doubt.

                  Comment

                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    #69
                    Great game but if we do happen to lose tonight, I'm pretty confident we'll account for Brisbane next week

                    Comment

                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      #70
                      Look, no one likes Hardwick and everyone is total over Richmond. That's a given. But he does have a bit of a point. As someone said that
                      unless you have multiple photos all taken at the same time and can "triangulate" the position of the ball then you can't conclusively say it
                      passed over the top of the goal post. I mean maybe the AFL does have that technology to do that. I don't know if they do or they don't.
                      Looking at the blurry photos we see on TV doesn't give us much confidence that they do though. Hardwick's other point is that the reaction
                      of Lynch and the other Richmond players is irrelevant if you are basing the overrule decision on the technology. There is nothing in the
                      goal review process that says the reaction of the kicker should be considered.
                      Without conclusive very high definition vision the whole process is flawed. But goal umpires are flawed too.
                      I find it interesting that the review images you see on TV in American pro sports like baseball and hockey are way way better than
                      what we see in the AFL goal review process. I suppose there is a much bigger market for them there and so companies and the leagues
                      have invested the dollars required.

                      Comment

                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Once Brisbane lost their ruckman, the outcome was never in doubt.
                        That post took longer to come than I expected.
                        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

                        Comment

                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Once Brisbane lost their ruckman, the outcome was never in doubt.
                          I have proposed this before but strangely it hasn't gained much traction in AFL circles. My idea is for each team have a baseball style
                          bullpen where up to ten ruckmen are held. As the starting ruckman goes down (in our case that would be Hickey getting injured,
                          or Ladhams having a brain explosion, assuming he has one) relief ruckmen would replace them until they are replaced themselves
                          by the next guy in the bullpen for being generally useless. The bullpen would be on the opposite side of the field away from the
                          bench as it is in baseball. It's best if the ruckmen are kept away from the regular team members as much as possible. They are
                          always falling over and punching things (and people) and present a danger to anyone ever near them. At the SCG our ruckmen
                          bullpen would be over near the O'Reilly Stand, or even perhaps underneath it somewhere.

                          Comment

                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2271

                            #73
                            Originally posted by KTigers
                            Look, no one likes Hardwick and everyone is total over Richmond. That's a given. But he does have a bit of a point. As someone said that
                            unless you have multiple photos all taken at the same time and can "triangulate" the position of the ball then you can't conclusively say it
                            passed over the top of the goal post. I mean maybe the AFL does have that technology to do that. I don't know if they do or they don't.
                            Looking at the blurry photos we see on TV doesn't give us much confidence that they do though. Hardwick's other point is that the reaction
                            of Lynch and the other Richmond players is irrelevant if you are basing the overrule decision on the technology. There is nothing in the
                            goal review process that says the reaction of the kicker should be considered.
                            Without conclusive very high definition vision the whole process is flawed. But goal umpires are flawed too.
                            I find it interesting that the review images you see on TV in American pro sports like baseball and hockey are way way better than
                            what we see in the AFL goal review process. I suppose there is a much bigger market for them there and so companies and the leagues
                            have invested the dollars required.
                            Dunstall carried on about the players (non-theatrical) reactions, however his tongue was in his cheek as he guffawed .

                            Comment

                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1826

                              #74
                              Cracking game last night but of course, the VIC team lost so all the focus is...elsewhere.

                              Happy to see the Lions do well, also quite happy for the Swans to play them if they lose tonight.

                              Comment

                              • chalbilto
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1139

                                #75
                                Watching in real time it looked like it was a point which was, I believe confirmed by the players reactions. So I am really pleased that Richmond lost and now we need Fremantle to defeat the bulldogs.

                                Comment

                                Working...