2022 AFL National Draft and Rookie Draft 28 & 29 November 2022

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  • i'm-uninformed2
    Reefer Madness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4653

    #31
    Here's the Hun's latest rankings

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    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16737

      #32
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      Maybe we will use a Cat B spot on Webster.
      Possibly Edwards too (instead of or as well as Webster). He was the only Swans academy players to be invited to a state combine. I saw that he put in a very fast time for the 20m sprint, particularly for such a big lad. I confess I wouldn't have picked that level of pace based on the games I've seen him play.

      Father-son prospect among best performers at state draft combine

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      • gloveski
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 1018

        #33
        I’ve been big on Lauchie Cowan knowing the family well . Interestingly he has been interviewed by every side, either in Melbourne or by zoom meetings . Bulldogs came to visit him in Tasmania .
        Will be very interested to see we’re he goes draft night


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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #34
          Originally posted by gloveski
          I’ve been big on Lauchie Cowan knowing the family well . Interestingly he has been interviewed by every side, either in Melbourne or by zoom meetings . Bulldogs came to visit him in Tasmania .
          Will be very interested to see we’re he goes draft night
          Most ranking lists have him around the early/mid 20's, right around the Dogs pick 21 (22/23/24).

          If every team has interviewed him, it shows how widely clubs look each draft given a number of clubs don't have picks anywhere near that area of the draft.

          You'll be hoping we strike with pick 17 (18/19/20) eh gloveski? Keep us updated if you hear of further interviews, like Horse dropping in to see him :-)
          Last edited by 707; 17 October 2022, 11:28 AM.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16737

            #35
            Originally posted by 707
            Most ranking lists have him around the early/mid 20's, right around the Dogs pick 21 (22/23/24).

            If every team has interviewed him, it shows how widely clubs look each draft given a number of clubs don't have picks anywhere near that area of the draft.

            You'll be hoping we strike with pick 17 (18/19/20) eh gloveski? Keep us updated if you hear of further interviews, like Horse dropping in to see him :-)
            If the Swans like him, I doubt "consensus" rankings will influence their thinking. Ling and Sheldrick are two examples of players they've picked much higher than the rankings indicated (albeit with little evidence yet that the club's ranking was validated by these players' actual output - for different reasons).

            He does sound like a player who might appeal to the club, particularly his intercept ability as a medium tall, plus his pace and adventurous kicking from defence. That said, we have a couple of recent draftees taken with similar attributes - Rankin especially, and Hall-Kahan based on where he played the last half-dozen or so VFL games. So his appeal to the Swans might depend on how the club sees those two players' development and prospects. And maybe also on where they see Blakey playing in the medium to longer term.

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            • Mr Magoo
              Senior Player
              • May 2008
              • 1255

              #36
              Originally posted by liz
              Possibly Edwards too (instead of or as well as Webster). He was the only Swans academy players to be invited to a state combine. I saw that he put in a very fast time for the 20m sprint, particularly for such a big lad. I confess I wouldn't have picked that level of pace based on the games I've seen him play.

              Father-son prospect among best performers at state draft combine
              Edwards has always had a very good 20m sprint time so that wasnt a fluke but I agree he doesn't look quick when playing (and never has) . He is a huge unit though and had a pretty good year at North Shore as well playing as a key back. Most likely from the academy to be drafted in my view with Webster possibly in the mix as well .

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              • gloveski
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1018

                #37
                Originally posted by 707
                Most ranking lists have him around the early/mid 20's, right around the Dogs pick 21 (22/23/24).

                If every team has interviewed him, it shows how widely clubs look each draft given a number of clubs don't have picks anywhere near that area of the draft.

                You'll be hoping we strike with pick 17 (18/19/20) eh gloveski? Keep us updated if you hear of further interviews, like Horse dropping in to see him :-)
                As much as I would like the Swans to select him I think Liz covers it off pretty well with her reply we have a few similar types on our list.
                I do think long term he will be a midfielder. He reminds me a lot of mills , but quicker, just not the footy IQ that Mills has . Fair to say though not many do .


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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11328

                  #38
                  Originally posted by gloveski
                  As much as I would like the Swans to select him I think Liz covers it off pretty well with her reply we have a few similar types on our list.
                  I do think long term he will be a midfielder. He reminds me a lot of mills , but quicker, just not the footy IQ that Mills has . Fair to say though not many do .


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                  He is also from Tassie and an article in the HUN today mentioned him and said the new Tassie team would likely be targeting home grown established talent.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    #39
                    Always weary of drafting Tasmanians, particularly onballers, most of their higher rated players in the last 10 years have proven to be busts

                    On a separate note, good luck getting a team going there with a view of attracting local talent as a foundation, there isn't much there

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      #40
                      Draft hopefuls put to the test at Combines (afl.com.au)

                      The previously unheard-of Baxter Philip's all-round excellent testing results catch the eye (at the WA State Combine). Philip appears to be an onballer who hasn't gotten that much ball - albeit when played in the seniors - his record in Colts is somewhat better: Baxter Philip | WAFL. That said he's only 181 cm and 61 kg. Plenty of room to bulk up and then who knows? I'll keep an eye out to see whether he gets drafted/rookied when the drafts happen. Comes from the same club as Connor McDonald, Logan's brother.
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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11328

                        #41
                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        Draft hopefuls put to the test at Combines (afl.com.au)

                        The previously unheard-of Baxter Philip's all-round excellent testing results catch the eye (at the WA State Combine). Philip appears to be an onballer who hasn't gotten that much ball - albeit when played in the seniors - his record in Colts is somewhat better: Baxter Philip | WAFL. That said he's only 181 cm and 61 kg. Plenty of room to bulk up and then who knows? I'll keep an eye out to see whether he gets drafted/rookied when the drafts happen. Comes from the same club as Connor McDonald, Logan's brother.
                        Light enough to be going over the jumps in Victoria. That's one skinny kid.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          #42
                          How about using our pick 42 (which should come in to within pick 40 by the time Brisbane matches bids for Ashcroft etc.) on Anthony Munkara?

                          Anthony Munkara Draft Profile - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central (formerly AFL Draft Central)
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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            #43
                            Originally posted by bloodspirit
                            How about using our pick 42 (which should come in to within pick 40 by the time Brisbane matches bids for Ashcroft etc.) on Anthony Munkara?

                            Anthony Munkara Draft Profile - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central (formerly AFL Draft Central)
                            Pick 40 will be the last pick that can't be matched for NGA prospects. From 41 on, clubs can match for NGA's. There will be a number of picks extinguished by matching, Ashcroft, Fletcher by Brisbane, one of the Davey twins by Essendon and Michalenny by the Cows, Which picks and how many is the unknown and by matching an extra pick is created at that point before the extinguishing starts.

                            I'd like Ashcroft to be bid on at pick 1, as picks currently stand for Brisbane, it would extinguish 6-7 picks! and send then into 2023 deficit matching Fletcher late in the first round.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              #44
                              It seems fairly safe to assume that our pick will still finish up inside 40, assuming we are still holding it.
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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                                How about using our pick 42 (which should come in to within pick 40 by the time Brisbane matches bids for Ashcroft etc.) on Anthony Munkara?

                                Anthony Munkara Draft Profile - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central (formerly AFL Draft Central)
                                I thought about Munkara as well when we had our original 2nd round pick. Then I wondered if we would take an indigenous player that didn't come out of our academy. We have drafted a couple of the greatest indigenous players in Goodes and MOL, but since Goodes in 1997, we have only drafted 1 indigenous player who has gone on to become a regular in the senior side, which was Jetta in 2009.

                                We rarely draft indigenous players. Just one successful pick in the last 24 years shows our reluctance to take on the risks associated with indigenous players, especially since most come from out of state. Even Jetta requested a trade home. The Elijah Taylor experience must further sour our view in selecting indigenous players in the draft.

                                The continuing racial vilification of indigenous players further adds to the risks. It's very unfair since the players are the victims of the vilification and also reduces their football employment opportunities because of the disruptive nature it brings. Like AG was the victim of vilification, but was a continuous disruption to both player and the club. The AFL should really be doing more in this space.

                                I was hoping we would choose Isaac Keeler in this draft. He seems the perfect fit on a needs basis, being a Paddy Ryder type player, but wonder if being a South Australian indigenous player will rule him out.

                                I don't think the Swans are a racist club, but we do discriminate. At least the numbers say so.
                                Last edited by Ludwig; 19 October 2022, 11:22 AM.

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