Hawthorn racism review

[barry]

If so, what was the point of the panel in the first place? The allegations were very serious- full and exhaustive investigations were called for. We know nothing more than we did 6+ months ago!

Apart from the 3 named not having broken any AFL rules……….Totally underwhelming by all concerned at the AFL and Hawthorn.

Yeah, it was the AFL 'managing the situation'. It's failure is a justification for cancelling it.
Politics 101.

[caj23]

Interesting that it comes out now that Zac and Amy aren’t actually indigenous Australians.

Puts a slightly different context on the allegations

[RogueSwan]

Interesting that it comes out now that Zac and Amy aren’t actually indigenous Australians...

Source?

[wolftone57]

It is difficult to understand how a so called independent panel can take 6 plus months, during which no face to face interviews were conducted ( if I’ve understood correctly) but only written submissions from the complainants.

It is beyond comprehension………

How on earth are we ever going to know the truth? The football community and moreover the whole country is entitled to know what really happened, such is the gravity of the allegations.
Whatever happens from here on, surely our great game has been brought into disrepute, not only by the allegations but also by how this sorry saga has been handled right from the beginning.

If I am to read the news on this correctly only one complainent actually took part and provided a written submission. I stand corrected if there were more but I have only heard about one submission. Not only that in the light of transparency should a report not be released? Shouldn't they actually release the information about how many people gave written submissions and whether the accused provided such. I believe through lawyers that did happen. But NO interviews of any kind were conducted as far as I can see from the information that has been provided.

This is a sham investigation. An investigation like a shark with no teeth. Useless. The outcome was always going to be this. Nothing. But does that help anyone? Of course not. The accused were not acquitted of anything and are still living with this hanging over their heads. The plaintiffs in this matter did not get any closure or justice, whether nagative or positive for them. So, the issue still hovers like an Egg Fart in a lift

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[wolftone57]

Interesting that it comes out now that Zac and Amy aren’t actually indigenous Australians.

Puts a slightly different context on the allegations

Ian and Amy or Zac & Kylie? Which do you mean?

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[wolftone57]

Interesting that it comes out now that Zac and Amy aren’t actually indigenous Australians.

Puts a slightly different context on the allegations

That puts paid to your comment

Bradley has guided Amy, a Gunditjmara and Bunitji woman, through the case, with Amy releasing a statement in November detailing what were described as “harrowing” claims she has made in the initial Hawthorn “cultural safety review”.

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[wolftone57]

By thd way Cyril Rioli and his partner will be a part of the complaint to the AHRC.

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[caj23]

jason burt statement - Google Search

[barry]

Jason Burt sounds like he's on a one man crusade to clear himself.

That either means he is clear, or s11t is about to explode on this.

[neilfws]

ABC News have released a carefully-worded statement. Notably, they point out that Hawthorn were repeatedly offered chances to give their side of the story and chose not to respond.

ABC statement on Russell Jackson’s reporting on the Hawthorn FC allegations

[wolftone57]

ABC statement on Russell Jackson’s reporting on the Hawthorn FC allegations | About the ABC

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[wolftone57]

ABC News have released a carefully-worded statement. Notably, they point out that Hawthorn were repeatedly offered chances to give their side of the story and chose not to respond.

ABC statement on Russell Jackson’s reporting on the Hawthorn FC allegations

More importantly, the three respondents were offered the chance to tell their side. A fact the three have made big a hullabaloo about the opposite being true. If that is the case, they were given more than enough opportunity to reply and refused to, then all this AFL media about them being denied due process may be bull.

If they refund to reply to the ABC then their legal representatives may have refused to let them appear before the panel under hoe conditions. Who knows. The whole thing is a dreadful mess.

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[caj23]

More importantly, the three respondents were offered the chance to tell their side. A fact the three have made big a hullabaloo about the opposite being true. If that is the case, they were given more than enough opportunity to reply and refused to, then all this AFL media about them being denied due process may be bull.

If they refund to reply to the ABC then their legal representatives may have refused to let them appear before the panel under hoe conditions. Who knows. The whole thing is a dreadful mess.

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You do understand the difference between not replying to an ABC journalist after the fact for the purposes of his news report, and not being provided with the opportunity to be interviewed as part of the process in the first place?

[Maltopia]

Former Hawks staffer says he 'overstepped the mark' in incident with First Nations player, but has nothing to apologise for

Burt admits to some elements of the allegations, eg that he, Clarkson and Fagan went to the home of the player with a pregnant parter to declare the relationship was over.

He claims the message to the pregnant partner came from the player, but the player and his then partner claim it was Clarkson.

Burt admits that the meeting was inappropriate and heavy handed (four blokes going to tell a young pregnant woman her relationship is over is totally effed up).

There are two sides to every story, but it is interesting how Burt has made some concessions but Clarkson and Fagan have denied all elements.

[liz]

ABC television news has just reported that some of the individuals/families involved in the Hawthorn report have named themselves in an open letter, and stated their intention of making a claim to the Human Rights Commission. It was described as "just breaking news" and there's nothing yet up on the ABC News website, but I imagine it will appear soon.