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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    A tall from Bullies who are pre agents, Naughton or Ugle Hagan

    Try Barrass again, eagles could end up with a mozza if picks if they moved Number 1 as well

    Sicily, Weitering, Cox, chase a gun ask the question

    We dont need kids, put 2 pick together and see if it moves someone

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5835

      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      URFA I believe due to being delisted and listed again a few years back

      Good kick at goal and can play HBF, Inside mid etc but also kicks quite well both legs
      I was not impressed with his game in the final. But have been impressed over the journey. I think he probably lost interest knowing he was leaving and he was on the outer with Goodwin. Goodwin has made some weird calls lately maybe his head is not in the right place

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        Is Ben Brown injured? Not sure why he didn't play v Blues.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5835

          Originally posted by lwjoyner
          are we expexting some list changes yet.
          There are always list changes. Buddy, Paddy, Hicks. I wonder what Josh Kennedy would be like as a mids coach?

          These players would have to be on the delisting table;

          Owen
          Gould (although I still think he has value)
          Edwards
          Clarke
          Sheather
          Mitchell
          Rankin
          Hall-Khan

          Although I think the last two are safe.

          I have also been led to believe we are in talks to bring in an Irishman. A Key Defensive prospect maybe?



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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5835

            Originally posted by troyjones2525
            Reports from 7sport that we are now out of the race for Ben McKay. I'm sure there will be more than a few on here that will be delighted by this news, but I'm not one of them.

            This sucks as getting both him and Grundy would have been a perfect off season IMO.

            199cm intercept marking defender's don't grow on trees, and that was a major weakness for us in 2023 once Paddy went down as I believe we were ranked 18th in the league for intercept marking.

            Looking at the top sides, they all have elite intercept markers in defence as it has become a real weapon in the game! First Barrass (who is excellent at intercepting) and now missing out on McKay, I wonder where we'll head next...

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            I said the same thing either here or on Big Footy over a week ago. He was never interested in an interstate move

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by liz
              It’s not ‘Cat B rookies’. It’s all rookies.
              I got confused by different information between the Swans' website and Footywire.

              Checking again, the Swans' website shows all rookies, including Cat B, as drafted in the same year as the ND. It's just Footywire that shows Cat B rookies in the following year. for example, the Swans website shows Edwards and Magor as drafted in 2022, but Footywire shows Edwards as drafted in 2023 and Magor in 2022.

              I use Footywire a lot for these references, because it's quicker with a better list presentation than the Swans' website. I don't know why I never noticed this before, Maybe there's been a recent change on how this is presented. Maybe it's just my poor vision playing tricks on me. Who knows?

              Sorry for littering RWO with this nonsense.

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              • The Big Cat
                On the veteran's list
                • Apr 2006
                • 2347

                Originally posted by wolftone57
                There are always list changes. Buddy, Paddy, Hicks. I wonder what Josh Kennedy would be like as a mids coach?

                These players would have to be on the delisting table;

                Owen
                Gould (although I still think he has value)
                Edwards
                Clarke
                Sheather
                Mitchell
                Rankin
                Hall-Khan

                Although I think the last two are safe.

                I have also been led to believe we are in talks to bring in an Irishman. A Key Defensive prospect maybe?



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                Mitchell was only drafted last year so will have a two year deal at least.
                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                • i'm-uninformed2
                  Reefer Madness
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4653

                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  There are always list changes. Buddy, Paddy, Hicks. I wonder what Josh Kennedy would be like as a mids coach?

                  These players would have to be on the delisting table;

                  Owen
                  Gould (although I still think he has value)
                  Edwards
                  Clarke
                  Sheather
                  Mitchell
                  Rankin
                  Hall-Khan

                  Although I think the last two are safe.

                  I have also been led to believe we are in talks to bring in an Irishman. A Key Defensive prospect maybe?



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                  I’d definitely be keeping Edwards. He’s got a way to go, but he improved a fair bit, he’s got attributes that could see him succeed at AFL level, and he’s a big unit who moves well.

                  As for McDonald down back, no. I’m sure he could do it, but he’s exceptional down forward. He would have been close to a 40 goal forward in just his third year if he’d played every game, and for the next decade will be a 50 goal plus a season player who has high footy IQ, a huge tank and elite field kicking skills. They are a rare breed and we’re blessed to have him.
                  'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    Is Ben Brown injured? Not sure why he didn't play v Blues.
                    He was/is injured, think he’s done at AFL level

                    FWIW I’ve never rated him as a player anyway. Is a one trick pony who can’t take a contested mark and is a liability when the ball hits the ground. I’ve always said he needs to kick at least 4 goals in a game to make up for what he leaks the other way

                    Sir Dane always loved playing on him as he basically played as a loose man once he killed the marking contest

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4040

                      Yeah. Not great when ball hits the ground. They did cry out for someone like him to take grabs v Carlton.

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                      • royboy42
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2076

                        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                        My sense of Sheather is he’s a desperate player and physical, but a bit limited in his scope. He reminds me a bit of James Bell in that he’s got some attributes that make him a strong contributor at VFL level, but no defining attribute that allows him to prosper at AFL level and his position is a bit uncertain.Having said that, I’ve only watched so much of him so happy to be told I’m wrong. I know he has a couple of fans on here and our old mate The Bloods certainly rated him.
                        Dunno how much value I'd place in opinions of 'old mate, the Bloods'.Rowie?

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                        • wolftone57
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5835

                          Originally posted by waswan
                          A tall from Bullies who are pre agents, Naughton or Ugle Hagan

                          Try Barrass again, eagles could end up with a mozza if picks if they moved Number 1 as well

                          Sicily, Weitering, Cox, chase a gun ask the question

                          We dont need kids, put 2 pick together and see if it moves someone
                          Originally posted by waswan
                          A tall from Bullies who are pre agents, Naughton or Ugle Hagan

                          Try Barrass again, eagles could end up with a mozza if picks if they moved Number 1 as well

                          Sicily, Weitering, Cox, chase a gun ask the question

                          We dont need kids, put 2 pick together and see if it moves someone
                          Absolutely not. None of those are even vaguely available. Barrass has said no. What would we do with Naughton? Make him CHB? Because for a forward he does not do enough. Ugje-Hagan will never be available to us after Buddy ignored him. The kid just wanted Bud to acknowledge him but he gave him the cold shoulder.

                          I laughed when you said Sicily & Weitering. They both have long term contracts & are not going anywhere. Cox? I presume Brennan Cox? Contracted until the end of 2024 & about to be offered another contract. As he is from Woodville-West Torrens I am sure Crows & Power have already tested the waters. No hope.

                          We have all the KD elements but just need a young key defender to develop. List;

                          McCartin
                          Melican (was really good in the middle of thx year. If hd can stay fit & return in that form we have a strong option)

                          Francis (did some good things this year. Probably a learning curve for him. I just worry about his mind fades)

                          Arnold (He has developed really well in the reserves)

                          Edwards (if we retain him. Needs a lot of development. Can do the hard stuff. No nonsense defender. But brain fades do not help. Loses touch with his opponent at times as he seems to get lost. Is a huge presence back there).

                          Newbie (if this is an Irish boy it may not take much time to develop him)

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            Originally posted by wolftone57
                            There are always list changes. Buddy, Paddy, Hicks. I wonder what Josh Kennedy would be like as a mids coach?

                            These players would have to be on the delisting table;

                            Owen
                            Gould (although I still think he has value)
                            Edwards
                            Clarke
                            Sheather
                            Mitchell
                            Rankin
                            Hall-Khan

                            Although I think the last two are safe.

                            I have also been led to believe we are in talks to bring in an Irishman. A Key Defensive prospect maybe?
                            Edwards is contracted for 2024.

                            Unless there's some personality issue, I can't see us delisting HHK. I've said many times that I think he's our best young prospect who hasn't played AFL yet. I can see him challenging McInerney for a spot on the wing next year.

                            The Irishman rumour would make sense if we delist Sheather, giving us an open Cat B spot.

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              Originally posted by royboy42
                              Dunno how much value I'd place in opinions of 'old mate, the Bloods'.Rowie?
                              He and I argued ferociously on that one and he had a clear blind spot/weird obsession there which we will never understand. But he did have some good insights at times. He was an early Chad adopter, and he and I shared an early faith in Sheldrick.

                              It’s just it all got outweighed by his Tourette-like response to Rowbottom.
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                Interesting article on fox sports talking about Carlton having to trade in 11 players that featured in their semi final win

                                Interesting the blend of pathways to building a team knocking on the door in 2023

                                Saad
                                Newman
                                Hewett
                                McGovern
                                Docherty
                                Acres
                                Fogarty
                                Pittonet
                                Cerra
                                Kennedy
                                Marchbank etc

                                To compliment their $13.5mill spend into the future key long term contracts internally ie

                                Cripps $900k pa
                                Walsh $850k pa
                                Curnow $800k pa
                                McKay
                                TDK
                                Etc
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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