2023 List Management

[Thunder Shaker]

Seriously doubt we will get more than pick 3/4th round pick for him if anything, they can just walk him through the recycled players draft for nothing, so it dilutes any value he may have

North did not finish last, West Coast did. This alleged PSD plan can backfire badly.

Trading is not a one-off event. It happens every year, mostly with the same people from the clubs year after year. It is in the interests of both clubs to make fair offers in good faith. If North tries to screw another club at the trade table, it sours working relationships between the two clubs. I don't see it happening.

North will have an incentive to make a fair trade offer for Stephens.

I doubt Stephens would go for as little as a fourth-round pick. He has played 43 games across 4 seasons, about 48% of possible games (89). Such players don't get traded for fourth-round picks.

I'm expecting the trade for Stephens to be equivalent to a second-round or third-round pick, perhaps by way of a pick upgrade or a future pick in that range.

[wolftone57]

Edwards is contracted for 2024.

Unless there's some personality issue, I can't see us delisting HHK. I've said many times that I think he's our best young prospect who hasn't played AFL yet. I can see him challenging McInerney for a spot on the wing next year.

The Irishman rumour would make sense if we delist Sheather, giving us an open Cat B spot.

I can't see us delisting HHK either. I wasn't aware Rookies had more than a 2 year contract. I thought Edwards would have finished his by now.

The list was the players who have been on the list 2 or more years and are yet to play or who have played and have not impressed.

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[wolftone57]

He and I argued ferociously on that one and he had a clear blind spot/weird obsession there which we will never understand. But he did have some good insights at times. He was an early Chad adopter, and he and I shared an early faith in Sheldrick.

It’s just it all got outweighed by his Tourette-like response to Rowbottom.

I think it is all about Rowie's hair

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[wolftone57]

Interesting article on fox sports talking about Carlton having to trade in 11 players that featured in their semi final win

Interesting the blend of pathways to building a team knocking on the door in 2023

Saad
Newman
Hewett
McGovern
Docherty
Acres
Fogarty
Pittonet
Cerra
Kennedy
Marchbank etc

To compliment their $13.5mill spend into the future key long term contracts internally ie

Cripps $900k pa
Walsh $850k pa
Curnow $800k pa
McKay
TDK
Etc

Isn't it weird, here is a club that got so many top 10 draft picks yet have to trade in the majority of their team

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[wolftone57]

Im just suggesting we ask the question as we dont need kids, we have heaps.
Can still grab Cleary, Sheldrick, Roberts, Arnold, Buller, Konstany

Naughton fwd and Mclean back
Better to chase a Key Position if they become available as opposed to when we need one.
If we wait to when we need one when end up being in a race for Mckay who everyone agrees isnt worth what is being proposed.

McLean is useless back. Naughton is a better defender than forward. I don't think there is a hope in hell.

If the kid is good enough, big enough & almost ready as a KD I'd go that way.

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[MattW]

Did we know Harrison Arnold had signed an extension?

'Sydney pair Harry Arnold and Jack Buller, Richmond duo Matt Coulthard and James Tresize, Fremantle's Ethan Stanley, the Dogs' Caleb Poulter, Port Adelaide's Quinton Narkle and Hawthorn's Brandon Ryan have also since signed extensions.'

Port great Travis Boak set to go on, luckless Saint Nick Coffield's offer, Port Adelaide's future first on the table

[BRS328]

MattW
This was reported some time ago. I am not sure, but it may have been part of the agreement when they signed given the fact of relocation etc. it appears most clubs give mid season draftees a full year in the system to fully assess them

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Didn't know about Arnold, but it would seem a prudent move (along with re-signing the Pelican) in case we are unable to secure a key defender from another club.

[MattW]

Didn't know about Arnold, but it would seem a prudent move (along with re-signing the Pelican) in case we are unable to secure a key defender from another club.

I actually think we're ok for next year; perhaps we're looking for a ready made Rampe replacement.

[sharp9]

She doesn't understand football and that is why she concentrates on "off field stuff". She is anything but balanced and has been content to act as a stenographer for the AFL. For example, her attacks on James Hird were vicious and unfounded.

Yup May be right. Attacks on James Hurd were very well founded. He should have been jailed IMHO. Giving illegal drugs to people in your charges without their consent.

[Bay View]

James Jordon has selected Sydney as his destination club. Good news!

[Auntie.Gerald]

I remember Buller was stated in the media with a contract for 2024 minimum

Great to hear Arnold also as a low cost developing solution

[Blood Fever]

James Jordon has selected Sydney as his destination club. Good news!

Excellent.

[i'm-uninformed2]

James Jordon has selected Sydney as his destination club. Good news!

Yep. Cal Twomey - who's neither sensationalist, or off the mark too often on these things - reporting it.

I'm a bit meh on what I've seen of him, but he's young, costs nothing in draft collateral, probably won't carry much of a wage, and with Mills potentially a late starter to next year, adds some depth.

A low-cost, low-risk option.

[Blood Fever]

Yep. Cal Twomey - who's neither sensationalist, or off the mark too often on these things - reporting it.

I'm a bit meh on what I've seen of him, but he's young, costs nothing in draft collateral, probably won't carry much of a wage, and with Mills potentially a late starter to next year, adds some depth.

A low-cost, low-risk option.

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