Rd 4 vs Port Adelaide @ SCG - Match Thread
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I love the way Horse opens the post match presser......"They get two free kick goals and it changes momentum". He doesn't like talking about umpiring.....for obvious reasons but that is code for 'two gifts that robbed us'. He acknowledges that we didn't play great but I reckon he is fuming inside about the maggots in yellow and it's not like it hasn't happened before FFS.Comment
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I think you need to put this in perspective.
Aliir was a tactical move because we were desperate for a ruckman. He did not want to leave the club.
Nank was a decision between he and Naismith. At the time based on the potential ability between the two it was probably the right call. Nankervis had told the club he wanted to play senior football, and Naismith was taller and had demonstrated greater potential. Hindsight is a great thing.
Cameron we can put down to mistake, was always injured, and at the time lacked consistency. We must remember big players take longer to develop.
Dawson did the “dirty” on the Swans, having made commitments, and then changing his mind without good reason, leaving the club leaving the club in a no win situation .
Mitchell was only ever interested in the money from day one.
Heweet never wanted to leave the Swans, and was moved on to make way for an emerging group of young midfielder’s including Mills, Rowbottom, Warner, Dawson, Gulden, Campbell etc., and retain the likes of Parker. Had Dawson been honest with the Swans I have no doubt Heweet would still be there.Comment
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Whilst talking about list management losses that hurt us…
We also lost Mummy due to Franklin and probably Tippett (lack of funds, and the Swans probably knew a couple of years out he was coming our way), Membrey due to lack of opportunity and the one that I think hurt us the most recently - Hewett.
I say this because we also had JPK retire, and Rowbottom was amongst our bottom six for a large part of last year (though the coaches think otherwise as he finished 3rd in the club champion award) and we continue to get smashed in the middle this year.Comment
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The main issue going forward is that Buddy is not like Goodes. Adam was a team first player. With Buddy it is, and always has been, all about him.
No chance he will make it easy and play VFL or retire.
Time to see what Horse is made of and can he make the really hard decisions.Comment
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Whilst talking about list management losses that hurt us…
We also lost Mummy due to Franklin and probably Tippett (lack of funds, and the Swans probably knew a couple of years out he was coming our way), Membrey due to lack of opportunity and the one that I think hurt us the most recently - Hewett.
I say this because we also had JPK retire, and Rowbottom was amongst our bottom six for a large part of last year (though the coaches think otherwise as he finished 3rd in the club champion award) and we continue to get smashed in the middle this year.
Mummy, people always get this wrong.
1, had a big money offer from a salary cap bloated expansion team
2, Subbed out of GF with a Hammy
3, Outplayed all year by a Canadian ruck on a qtr of what he ended up getting paid.
4, Pyke kicked 28 goals as a ruck in 2013 alongside Mummy.
Dawson went home for the same money offer, we were over him last year when we won 10 games on the way to a GF but now he is a gaping hole in the squad
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Alir got a 3yr deal when we needed a ruck.....We were over him whe. Paddy played well last yearComment
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Roar article reflecting many of posts here concerning Buddy:
Lament for a champion: Thanks for everything Buddy, but time to say goodbye – The RoarComment
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Roar article reflecting many of posts here concerning Buddy:
Lament for a champion: Thanks for everything Buddy, but time to say goodbye – The RoarComment
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Roar article reflecting many of posts here concerning Buddy:
Lament for a champion: Thanks for everything Buddy, but time to say goodbye – The Roar
Buddy should only play upfront when he can at least be capable of breaking even with his opponent for the benefit of the team.Comment
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The main issue going forward is that Buddy is not like Goodes. Adam was a team first player. With Buddy it is, and always has been, all about him.
No chance he will make it easy and play VFL or retire.
Time to see what Horse is made of and can he make the really hard decisions.Comment
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Agree. Acute football brain and has created numerous goals for team mates. Nonsense to suggest he is not a team player.Comment
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I spluttered in disbelief when I read that comment about Franklin not being a team player. But there's been a lot in this thread that has made me splutter.Comment
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Coaches' votes are out.
Coaches' votes, R4: 'Package' delivers perfect 10, young gun in front
9 Chad Warner (SYD)
7 Aliir Aliir (PORT)
7 Oliver Florent (SYD)
5 Zak Butters (PORT)
1 Xavier Duursma (PORT)
1 Jeremy Finlayson (PORT)
It's often hard to guess which coach gave which votes, but in this case I am pretty confident Longmire gave his 5 to Florent, 4 to Warner and 3 to Aliir. Hinkley 2, 5, 4 to those players respectively. That's just based on Longmire's comments on Florent in his post-match conference.Comment
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