Rnd 15 - vs West Coast Eagles at SCG, 4:35 PM, Saturday 24 June 2023

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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    #31
    Franklin likely to be rested. McCartin May play.

    Swans managing Buddy’s last hurrah

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #32
      Originally posted by Maltopia
      Franklin likely to be rested. McCartin May play.

      Swans managing Buddy’s last hurrah
      Yay to both!

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      • Thunder Shaker
        Aut vincere aut mori
        • Apr 2004
        • 4168

        #33
        We have some players returning from injury as well. Buddy a watch but Swans stars a chance to return
        Heeney will return. Tom McCartin, Callum Mills and Logan McDonald a chance. Franklin likely to miss again.

        SEN has tipped us to win by 89 points while mentioning that West Coast's last two away games were beltings by 122 points (Adelaide) and 116 points (Hawthorn).
        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #34
          There is no danger in this game. We could field 3 or 4 RWO'ers and still win. If volunteer to play forward pocket, but am having my hair done that day.

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          • Markwebbos
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            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #35
            Every game is a danger game to me, especially after #AlmostNorthGate. We are quite capable of losing to anyone on our day.

            I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

            Glad Buddies out. Hope Buller stays and kicks a few and that the Wombat spends quality time in the middle.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #36
              Originally posted by Markwebbos
              Every game is a danger game to me, especially after #AlmostNorthGate. We are quite capable of losing to anyone on our day.

              I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

              Glad Buddies out. Hope Buller stays and kicks a few and that the Wombat spends quality time in the middle.
              Wombat = Sheldrick?

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              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • liz
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                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16744

                #37
                I'm hoping that West Coast bring a strong(ish) team ready to play, and that they really take it up to the Swans.

                Our season is past the point of needing a large win to gain percentage. We do need to remember how to play four quarters of tough, cohesive football, and we might have close to our best side available for the first time since the early rounds. Next week we play Geelong and I am desperately hoping we can atone for that absymal performance at Kardinia Park early in the season. I'm prepared to "forgive" them for the grand final. Kinda. But we can't afford to have this mental fear of playing Geelong.

                We saw it against Collingwood for a large part of the Roos era, certainly the back-end. Regardless of the relative form and strength of the two teams, our guys visibly went to jelly as soon as they ran onto the field against Malthouse's Pies. It was annoying, and I desperately hope we aren't in the process of developing the same fear of Geelong. To the eye it looked like, both times, Geelong physically bullied and overwhelmed our younger side. But Geelong don't bully and overwhelm other young sides to quite the same extent, and nor are we usually bullied and overwhelmed by bigger, older sides.

                There's nothing to be gained from beating up on a lacklustre West Coast if we are then subjected to a third installment of a horror trilogy the following week.

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                • troyjones2525
                  Swans Fanatic!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2908

                  #38
                  I think (unfortunately), if McDonald comes into the side, then Buller comes out. Will be interesting though the following week when Buddy is probably playing, what sort of line-up we go with.

                  I can't recall whether we have played all of Amarty, Buddy, McDonald and McLean all in the same side with Hickey as well. Seems pretty tall, especially in Winter when it's probably either wet or cold and slippery.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #39
                    Originally posted by liz
                    I'm hoping that West Coast bring a strong(ish) team ready to play, and that they really take it up to the Swans.

                    Our season is past the point of needing a large win to gain percentage. We do need to remember how to play four quarters of tough, cohesive football, and we might have close to our best side available for the first time since the early rounds. Next week we play Geelong and I am desperately hoping we can atone for that absymal performance at Kardinia Park early in the season. I'm prepared to "forgive" them for the grand final. Kinda. But we can't afford to have this mental fear of playing Geelong.

                    We saw it against Collingwood for a large part of the Roos era, certainly the back-end. Regardless of the relative form and strength of the two teams, our guys visibly went to jelly as soon as they ran onto the field against Malthouse's Pies. It was annoying, and I desperately hope we aren't in the process of developing the same fear of Geelong. To the eye it looked like, both times, Geelong physically bullied and overwhelmed our younger side. But Geelong don't bully and overwhelm other young sides to quite the same extent, and nor are we usually bullied and overwhelmed by bigger, older sides.

                    There's nothing to be gained from beating up on a lacklustre West Coast if we are then subjected to a third installment of a horror trilogy the following week.
                    Liz, I agree that the side has psychological damage from the two shellackings by the Cats. I actually worry that the impact of the most recent loss has undermined our entire season.

                    It would definitely be good to beat them next week. Getting the injured players back this week and a decent hit out against the Weagles would be a start.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #40
                      I fully agree with Liz and hope WCE bring a strong side. We need to start playing 4 quarter footy with cohesion across all lines. Being challenged will help the process. We have to go 8-2 to make finals, so a lot has to change to make that happen. Otherwise, we are just playing for draft position.

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                      • Roadrunner
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 1453

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        I fully agree with Liz and hope WCE bring a strong side. We need to start playing 4 quarter footy with cohesion across all lines. Being challenged will help the process. We have to go 8-2 to make finals, so a lot has to change to make that happen. Otherwise, we are just playing for draft position.
                        Yes, let’s just take it one week at a time. Playing 4 full quarters of good footy is the important thing and our team selection needs to reflect this. No passengers please- then we have a chance to win games. Don’t pick players like Wilbur on reputation- earn your place!

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16744

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Otherwise, we are just playing for draft position.
                          I hope we're mostly playing for player and team development/improvement.

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                          • liz
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                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16744

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Roadrunner
                            Don’t pick players like Wilbur on reputation- earn your place!
                            My guess is that Hayward is almost the first forward selected each week. He does stuff that the coaches value highly and that we supporters pay no attention to.

                            My source is the horse's mouth. Not the Horse's mouth, but that of one of his underlings, who addressed a function I attended before a match a month or two back.

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4041

                              #44
                              Originally posted by liz
                              My guess is that Hayward is almost the first forward selected each week. He does stuff that the coaches value highly and that we supporters pay no attention to.

                              My source is the horse's mouth. Not the Horse's mouth, but that of one of his underlings, who addressed a function I attended before a match a month or two back.
                              Hayward much maligned on here. Wonder if his role will change a bit next year with more time as a target up forward like 4th quarter last week.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #45
                                Originally posted by liz
                                I hope we're mostly playing for player and team development/improvement.
                                I looked at our remaining fixture and thought we could run 9 games if we had McDonald and McCartin back in side Of course, a lot of luck has to come our way with injuries, umpires and goal kicking accuracy, but the team is good enough when playing up to capabilities. Unlikely to happen, but would make for a great story if it did.

                                Originally posted by liz
                                My guess is that Hayward is almost the first forward selected each week. He does stuff that the coaches value highly and that we supporters pay no attention to.

                                My source is the horse's mouth. Not the Horse's mouth, but that of one of his underlings, who addressed a function I attended before a match a month or two back.
                                Will is not the best decision maker, but the rest of his game is pretty good. I don't know why he's become such a whipping boy.

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