Rnd19 - vs Fremantle at Optus Stadium, 22 July at 5:40 PM local (7:40 PM AEST)

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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4044

    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Cat
    Twittersphere going ape droppings claiming Swans are a protected species. Have to laugh.
    Not a lot of rational thinking going on with supporters. Except us of course!????

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16761

      #32
      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      Yay!! One down, now we just need confirmation Darcy’s out.
      The return of The Chad would be the icing on the cake.

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      • dejavoodoo44
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2015
        • 8581

        #33
        Originally posted by MattW
        Wow, nicely run case. https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/...OUHfIalHA&s=19

        - - - Updated - - -

        Ten News Perth reports that Darcy will miss: https://twitter.com/10NewsFirstPER/s...pPoNWC42w&s=19
        I liked this bit of the transcript:

        The AFL’s Sam Bird asked Rampe whether McNeil was really a “realistic option” for the man with the ball to kick to in the moment.

        “It absolutely was a realistic option,” Rampe said.

        “The pass doesn’t go there, does it?” Bird asked.

        “Because I did my job,” Rampe responded.

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          #34
          Originally posted by liz
          The return of The Chad would be the icing on the cake.
          I’m assuming he’ll get up. Hope I’m not wrong!

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          • Roadrunner
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2018
            • 1470

            #35
            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            I’m assuming he’ll get up. Hope I’m not wrong!
            Take two:
            Out: Melican, Corey
            In: Lloyd, Chad
            Sub: Dyl or Corey

            Great to see Ramps is free to play- sometimes the tribunal does get it right!
            Hoping The Chad is fit as we need him in the middle especially on a big ground.
            I think big Tom is still a chance but neither McLean or Amartey deserve to be dropped and if Darcy doesn’t play we will stick with the same combo as last week.

            It will be tough over there but we’re the better team????

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            • barracuda
              Regular in the Side
              • Jun 2016
              • 551

              #36
              Originally posted by Roadrunner
              Ok here goes:

              Out: Rampe, Melican, Wicks
              In: Francis, Lloyd, Chad if fit, otherwise Hickey.
              Sub: Dyl

              I know many won’t agree with dropping Wicks before Corey, as he was reasonably ok. However we need to play Corey as his ceiling is higher and I consider Wicks to be no more than VFL level- same with Clarke. Both are ok for depth but shouldn’t be regulars if we’re serious- neither would get into a top 4 side, so what are we trying to prove by selecting them?
              Reasonably ok? Try played very well and destroyed Bailey Dale after half time. I also get to talk to swans coaches and staff pretty regularly and I assure you not one of them thinks he is only VFL level. I was in the change rooms immediately after the game and his team mates and coaches were all over him. In addition to his defensive work, tackling and structural play his contested ball wins and quick usage is elite. Further he is honing his aggression and playing on the edge even better. I think you have a set against him. Or you don't know what you are talking about.

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              • neilfws
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2009
                • 1822

                #37
                Just noting that this game is 7:40 PM AEST (not 3:40 PM as per thread title).

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                • Maltopia
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1556

                  #38
                  Originally posted by neilfws
                  Just noting that this game is 7:40 PM AEST (not 3:40 PM as per thread title).
                  Oops! Sorry to Liz also who reminded me re Sydney time zones last week too.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16761

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Maltopia
                    Oops! Sorry to Liz also who reminded me re Sydney time zones last week too.
                    I'm both touched that you remembered, and impressed by your ambition to have the world spin the other way by the weekend. Just in case you don't have the physics worked out in time, I've amended the title of the thread. But if you have a breakthrough, let me know and I can change it back!

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                    • Industrial Fan
                      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3317

                      #40
                      Originally posted by barracuda
                      Reasonably ok? Try played very well and destroyed Bailey Dale after half time. I also get to talk to swans coaches and staff pretty regularly and I assure you not one of them thinks he is only VFL level. I was in the change rooms immediately after the game and his team mates and coaches were all over him. In addition to his defensive work, tackling and structural play his contested ball wins and quick usage is elite. Further he is honing his aggression and playing on the edge even better. I think you have a set against him. Or you don't know what you are talking about.
                      there was a contest early in the game where he had Bailey Williams hearing footsteps and fumbled because he was worried about the impending tackle.

                      Personally I think his best is good enough I have concerns about his temperament spilling over when he gets frustrated.
                      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        #41
                        Originally posted by barracuda
                        Reasonably ok? Try played very well and destroyed Bailey Dale after half time. I also get to talk to swans coaches and staff pretty regularly and I assure you not one of them thinks he is only VFL level. I was in the change rooms immediately after the game and his team mates and coaches were all over him. In addition to his defensive work, tackling and structural play his contested ball wins and quick usage is elite. Further he is honing his aggression and playing on the edge even better. I think you have a set against him. Or you don't know what you are talking about.
                        The only stat that sticks out to me is his tackling.

                        You clearly have an insight to the club and he is asked to do a job that most of us are probably unaware of.

                        I think RR opinion is similar to most on here, if Wicks was available end of year, is would be less then 50/50 that he gets another club. That is VFL level.

                        Im hoping Konstanty, Warner pass him over the preseason.

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          #42
                          Wicks is definitely useful...........but there is a fair river that flows between gun VFL and gun AFL

                          in all the games i have watched of Wicks i see a player also on the edge of the best 22 in the AFL team...........not a mainstay

                          I think the description in his profile "outstanding awareness around goal" is a little up there......dont you think vs the best in the comp around goal........who truly are outstanding !

                          But he is rugged and only 23yrs of age and could really take off if he starts nailing his goals after he creates turnovers

                          ie goal assist and or goals himself

                          the other parts of his game a fairly dependable
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • barracuda
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 551

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            Wicks is definitely useful...........but there is a fair river that flows between gun VFL and gun AFL

                            in all the games i have watched of Wicks i see a player also on the edge of the best 22 in the AFL team...........not a mainstay

                            I think the description in his profile "outstanding awareness around goal" is a little up there......dont you think vs the best in the comp around goal........who truly are outstanding !

                            But he is rugged and only 23yrs of age and could really take off if he starts nailing his goals after he creates turnovers

                            ie goal assist and or goals himself

                            the other parts of his game a fairly dependable
                            Castana from Richmond played in 3 Richmond premierships whilst never being this mythical elite unicorn you keep looking for. Both he and Wicks have a specialty that is valuable. If you look at their stat averages they are very similar. Corey Warner does not have that speciality, ie that of a the tough small defensive pressure forward. Hence his ceiling might be higher but teams will still play guys like Castana and Wicks in that role. I'm sure during Richmonds premiership years they had plenty of guys with higher ceilings than Castanga. Yet they kept playing him. Wicks at his best is without doubt one of the top small pressure forwards in the comp. He has struggled with some injuries, consistency and discipline. It appears those issues are working themselves out now. Provided they stay worked out he will have an important role in the best 23 for some years to come.

                            Oh and ask Tom Papley if he likes playing with him? You bet he does because whilst Wicks looks after the defensive business Paps is off the chain with a license to go anywhere.

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                            • 111431
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 697

                              #44
                              Originally posted by barracuda
                              Castana from Richmond played in 3 Richmond premierships whilst never being this mythical elite unicorn you keep looking for. Both he and Wicks have a specialty that is valuable. If you look at their stat averages they are very similar. Corey Warner does not have that speciality, ie that of a the tough small defensive pressure forward. Hence his ceiling might be higher but teams will still play guys like Castana and Wicks in that role. I'm sure during Richmonds premiership years they had plenty of guys with higher ceilings than Castanga. Yet they kept playing him. Wicks at his best is without doubt one of the top small pressure forwards in the comp. He has struggled with some injuries, consistency and discipline. It appears those issues are working themselves out now. Provided they stay worked out he will have an important role in the best 23 for some years to come.

                              Oh and ask Tom Papley if he likes playing with him? You bet he does because whilst Wicks looks after the defensive business Paps is off the chain with a license to go anywhere.
                              some very good insights/ Let's hope he's in control of his controllables (ie discipline / straight kicking)

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                              • waswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2047

                                #45
                                Originally posted by 111431
                                some very good insights/ Let's hope he's in control of his controllables (ie discipline / straight kicking)
                                Last 2 yrs he is going at 9 Disp, 3 tackles and less than half a goal and 1, 1% per game.

                                Add in the Frees against and Clangers and Id be comfortable our list management could replace that.

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