Rnd 21, vs Giants at Giants Stadium, on Saturday 5 August 7:30 PM

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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Team List Rnd 21, vs Giants at Giants Stadium, on Saturday 5 August 7:30 PM

    So life after Buddy truly begins this week. Its very sad to see champions reach the end of their careers but that is life I guess, and we have the prospect of seeing the next stars come, just as we have had Plugger, Kelly, Mickey O, Goodes, Kennedy and Franklin etc come in and have amazing careers. aw

    So we are up against GWS (but the AFL website also says our next opponent are Gold Coast if you look at the ladder... think the Gather Round has stuffed it up somehow). GWS are a sneaky chance for a top four spot if they beat us, Port, Essendon and Collingwood. We are still in with a top eight chance if we can win three to four of our remaining matches, thanks to Fremantle beating Geelong and Richmond failing to beat St Kilda.

    We need to overtake two of Geelong, Bulldogs and Carlton to make the eight. We have tough games against GWS away, our bogey team, Gold Coast at home, Adelaide away and Melbourne at home. Doable!

    So Hickey went well in the VFL so maybe he comes in for Bud and McClean goes to the forward line.

    Stephens as sub for Clarke.

    Can't see too many other changes given the rest of the team is fit.
  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #2
    Hickey must come in

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      #3
      Definitely need a ruck and based on people who saw the Ressies thats Hickey.

      Id be staggered if Ramps plays so that has to be Francis to come in.

      Or, if Mills isnt up for the Midfield, play him down back in place of Ramps and bring in a Mid
      Disclaimer, I want Mills in the Mids

      Clarke cant play without a job so a waste as a Sub.

      - - - Updated - - -

      Mills did cover more ground then anyone on the weekend so id suggest he can play Midfield

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #4
        Clarke's job is on Kelly.
        Giants dont have a tall forward line, so may not need Francis.

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        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          #5
          Originally posted by barry
          Clarke's job is on Kelly.
          Giants dont have a tall forward line, so may not need Francis.
          Clark could also go to Whitfield. The Giants talls are currently Cadman and Riccardi - and while Fox and McCartin can handle them. What about Brown and Green? I'd bring in Francis.

          One thing is certain though, if we aren't miles ahead of the Giants at ¾ time - we will be in deep trouble. We currently have a nasty habit of fading, and the Giants absolutely play the game right to the end.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16731

            #6
            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            Clark could also go to Whitfield. The Giants talls are currently Cadman and Riccardi - and while Fox and McCartin can handle them. What about Brown and Green? I'd bring in Francis.

            One thing is certain though, if we aren't miles ahead of the Giants at ¾ time - we will be in deep trouble. We currently have a nasty habit of fading, and the Giants absolutely play the game right to the end.
            Green or Greene? I think Green has been out injured for the last few weeks, though he might be due back this week.

            The Greene match-up is clearly the most vital one across the park. He's been their matchwinner. I suspect Rampe has been his most common opponent over the years, so it will be a challenge if Rampe is unavailable for this match. Cunningham is probably not strong enough in the air, and seems a likely match-up for Bedford or Daniels. In Rampe's absence, Fox might be the first to get a crack, albeit that his form has dropped off a bit in the second half of the season.

            I'd definitely bring in Francis to handle one of the taller Giants forwards. Especially if Rampe is missing, but even if he is available.

            There's also a chance Hogan might be ready to resume this week.

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            • longmile
              Crumber
              • Apr 2011
              • 3360

              #7
              Could Clarke play on Toby Green?

              Either way think Hickey has to come in for Franklin. The no first ruck experiment has been interesting but I don’t think it’s sustainable

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              • crackedactor 01
                Regular in the Side
                • Jun 2020
                • 730

                #8
                I think its time Clarke had a run in the seconds. Roberts was great last week and I would really like to see back in the team.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16731

                  #9
                  Originally posted by longmile
                  Could Clarke play on Toby Green?
                  Not if we want to give ourselves a chance of winning the game.

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                  • Roadrunner
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 1444

                    #10
                    Originally posted by longmile
                    Could Clarke play on Toby Green?

                    Either way think Hickey has to come in for Franklin. The no first ruck experiment has been interesting but I don’t think it’s sustainable
                    Mate, Clarke on Toby Green would be giving them a 6 goal start before a ball is bounced- no disrespect to Ryan but that move would be as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

                    Big Tom to come in and maybe Francis if Ramps doesn’t make it. Dyl as sub, or maybe Corey or Roberts.
                    Unfortunately Ramps is the only one who could play on Punchy, as Fox has been well below form lately. Maybe the Lizard?

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                    • Markwebbos
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                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      #11
                      Hopefully Rampe is ok and can play on Greene? Otherwise who else could do it? Heeney?

                      Hickey for Buddy
                      Roberts for Clarke (as sub)

                      How far off is Melican?

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474

                        #12
                        It will be shared

                        Mills
                        Fox
                        Harry
                        Etc
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Nico
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11328

                          #13
                          Please, not Stephens as sub. His seconds form does not get franked at the top level. I think Roberts is a good call.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • gloveski
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1018

                            #14
                            Whoever comes in we need some run and carry or to win it at the coalface. Teams continue to run over us and waltz it out of the middle and stoppages in the second half.
                            Hickey for Buddy (Hopefully to give our mids first look at the ball)
                            If the coaches are happy with the current ruck set up then HHK for Buddy to give us a bit different look in the forward half, also can swing back
                            If Rampe out then I would like to see Arnold , he is quick and could play tall or small . Francis another option but he turns it over to much for my liking.

                            Sub Roberts/Warner or Stephens any of those three offer way more than Clarke




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                            • Ludwig
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #15
                              Rampe is on the injury list as a TBC, so I assume he won't be playing this week, at the very least. We will be challenged for height in the backline, as we have most of the season. Fox can cover for Rampe. We have enough defenders, but again, they can be exploited as a group when opposition tall forwards work into good matchups.

                              I don't like any of our Rampe replacement options. Francis got a lot of praise from the VFL commentators, but I thought he was slow and made a few too many disposal errors for my liking. Nonetheless, he still may be the best option. Arnold is another option, but probably hasn't shown enough to debut in such a critical game.

                              We don't have to replace Franklin with another tall forward, but Buller could be an option if we want to leave McLean in the ruck. The option most mentioned here is to move McLean to forward and bring in Hickey. Buller can also ruck if we go that route.

                              Of the nonKPPs, Roberts looks most likely to come in, and could be replacement for Clarke as sub. HHK continues to play well and is a chance. Warner also looked okay, but hasn't shown much yet at AFL when given the chance.

                              Longmire most likely to go with experience and the most conservative option, which is to replace Franklin and Rampe with Hickey and Francis.

                              I think the Fox is the best marchup for Toby Greene and if that doesn't work, I would try Florent. Could be the key to the game.

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