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  • Mel_C
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4470

    Last night I couldn't sleep and was repeatedly replaying the incident in my head. I was wondering whether they could have shown the result of Edge (or Snicko as I call it).

    This morning when I watched the post match coverage I heard Dwayne say that they couldn't show Edge because the players had knocked the post and any "spike" shown couldn't be confirmed if it was the player or the ball hitting the post.

    I was bemused by this comment because that means in other situations where they have gone for the review, could it have been a player that hit the post that caused the spike? I know that would be rare circumstances but it has made me question the accuracy of the process.

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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11343

      Originally posted by KTigers
      I just think it's unrealistic to not expect that extraordinary pressure and effort we put in in the first half to not have
      an effect later in the game. No team can keep that up for four quarters. That effort set us up with a big early lead that
      was enough to win the game. Forget the poster/non-poster thing. Was there not a poor umpiring decision earlier in
      the game that might have cost us a goal not equally important to the final scores in the game? Umpiring is a long long
      way from being an exact science. And it's a side issue anyway. We just have to win. Any way we can.
      I am Thailand visiting Ludwig and was watching the game at the Aussie Pub in Kamala, Phuket with a Melbourne supporter. He said after the game it was as bad an umpiring exhibition that he has seen in some time. He thought we got a really raw deal in the last quarter, particularly the Dawson decision.
      Mind you if Warner and I forget who else, had nailed those goals on the run with no immediate pressure in the 3rd quarter, the game was done and dusted. Chads field kicking is a worry.
      I am with Sharp9 on Stephens. Early on I thought I was going to eat my words but he dropped off. I think in the last quarter he handballed sideways when he was clear and the forward move was negated.
      My old mate Wayward was on fire early but he dropped away badly. He couldn't keep up with the pace of the game and was really labouring when chasing players. Ended up having his standard 11 possessions. Not much of a tank and ran out of petrol tickets early.
      No Paps to win one on ones didn't help.
      Last edited by Nico; 20 August 2023, 02:07 PM.
      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3372

        Originally posted by Nico
        Mind you if Warner and I forget who else, had nailed those goals on the run with no immediate pressure in the 3rd quarter, the game done and dusted. Chads field kicking is a worry.
        He's been bad the last few weeks. His disposal has been crap and has been caught with the ball multiple times

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Is this the year of the Fairycygnets?

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          • rickmat
            Regular in the Side
            • Mar 2018
            • 500

            The AFL's response (by the retiring CEO) was a joke. How can he, the AFL or any of the joke commentators make a definitive call on the disputed goal/ point. The goal umpire who was the only official on the spot to make the call. Regardless of any vision, the goal umpire was confident enough to make the right call in his mind. For the AFL CEO to say it was a mistake, it should have been reviewed and to sack the goal umpire for the rest of the year, is a real joke. Just shows that the AFL bowed to public and media pressure, did not back their official one iota, which is a real shame. If I was the goal umpire, I would resign and get the umpires union to make an issue of the AFL not backing their GameDay officials. It's a bloody disgrace.

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            • rickmat
              Regular in the Side
              • Mar 2018
              • 500

              I agree 500%, Liz. It's a bloody disgrace for the AFL to not back their goal umpire who was on the spot, not the AFL CEO or any other "experts"

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11343

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                Is this the year of the Fairycygnets?
                If we make it we are going to need the week off.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8727

                  Originally posted by Mel_C
                  Last night I couldn't sleep and was repeatedly replaying the incident in my head. I was wondering whether they could have shown the result of Edge (or Snicko as I call it).

                  This morning when I watched the post match coverage I heard Dwayne say that they couldn't show Edge because the players had knocked the post and any "spike" shown couldn't be confirmed if it was the player or the ball hitting the post.

                  I was bemused by this comment because that means in other situations where they have gone for the review, could it have been a player that hit the post that caused the spike? I know that would be rare circumstances but it has made me question the accuracy of the process.
                  So, they couldn't show Edge, because the reading of something touching the post, would have contradicted their narrative that the ball definitely didn't touch the post.

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                  • Matty10
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1331

                    If we beat Melb and GWS beat Carlton (or the Crows lose to the Eagles), this result won’t matter anyway, as far as Adelaide’s finals hopes are concerned.

                    …I hope it plays out that way, just to redirect the narrative that they were hard done by.

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      We are in, Melb game dont matter no more

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                      • Sandridge
                        Outer wing, Lake Oval
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2093

                        Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, the drama of last night will overshadow the fact that we've won 6 in a row against teams that, like us, were fighting for a finals spot.

                        But thanks to the Eagles beating the Poodles, we are finals bound yet again!

                        Personally, I'm elated! We were dead in the water two months ago but are now back in business!

                        Just love this club!

                        BLOODS FOREVER!

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                        • Ludwig
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by rickmat
                          I agree 500%, Liz. It's a bloody disgrace for the AFL to not back their goal umpire who was on the spot, not the AFL CEO or any other "experts"
                          Even more of a disgrace that the AFL stood down the only umpire on the Swans' payroll. And the AFL is always talking up 'equalization.' We need more graduates from the Sydney Umpiring Academy in the AFL.

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                          • lwjoyner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 960

                            doidnt sack/standown boundry guys involved in camerons farce mark and goal (3 errors) last week A joke
                            This poor old guy believed in what he did.

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                            • Mel_C
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4470

                              Just watching Fox Footy and they were talking about the post controversy again. The AFL said that the result won't be overturned. As it shouldn't be because there was still 46 seconds to go! The journalist, (Jon Ralph I think), insinuated that other teams fighting for the 8 wanted the result overturned. He was probably exaggerating and being intentionally controversial. But seriously, in the past when umpires have made incorrect decisions at the end of the game, there haven't been calls to overturn the result.

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                              • Matty10
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1331

                                Originally posted by waswan
                                We are in, Melb game dont matter no more
                                It matters in terms of a home final, but that’s not the point I was making. I was referring to the narrative that the Crows were finals bound but for an AFL mistake.

                                These sorts of things can become a distraction. If next week’s results play out as I suggested, this story loses its legitimacy.

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