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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    #31
    Originally posted by givekidsakick
    ....good big men are hard to find and we can't win a flag without one.
    This year's draft is being talked about as a bonanza for talls and key position players so all's not lost!
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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    • SimonH
      Salt future's rising
      • Aug 2004
      • 1647

      #32
      Originally posted by hammo
      This year's draft is being talked about as a bonanza for talls and key position players so all's not lost!
      We all know how Roos hates taking talls with our first pick (refuses point-blank to do so, in fact). So if all of the 2008 draft hype is correct, there should be some really good talls still available by our 2nd pick.

      Which we will probably then use on another midfielder anyway.

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      • DeadlyAkkuret
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        • Oct 2006
        • 4547

        #33
        I think we need a few more in and under type players.

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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          #34
          Originally posted by TheMase
          Bevan to take Williams.
          As the buzz builds as to who Bevo will take, i reckon its more likely to be Rioli. Bevo will put the straight jacket on him and lace him up all afternoon. Interesting stat on Bevo - no opponent has picked up more that 10 touches in a match and no opponent has kicked more than 2 goals on him. All this and he can can go forward and score goals. If anyone reckons Bevo isn't one of the best smallish defenders in the comp take a look at Guerra's display of skills. The question is - who is better as a smallish defensive defender in the comp at strangling dangerous small forwards? The stats point to Bevo
          Last edited by connolly; 11 July 2008, 01:21 PM. Reason: spelling
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          • TheMase
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 1207

            #35
            Originally posted by connolly
            As the buzz builds as to who Bevo will take, i reckon its more likely to be Rioli. Bevo will put the straight jacket on him and lace him up all afternoon. Interesting stat on Bevo - no opponent has picked up more that 10 touches in a match and no opponent has kicked more than 2 goals on him. All this and he can can go forward and score goals. If anyone reckons Bevo isn't one of the best smallish defenders in the comp take a look at Guerra's display of skills. The question is - who is better as a smallish defensive defender in the comp at strangling dangerous small forwards? The stats point to Bevo
            Leo to take Williams then?

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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15970

              #36
              Rioli may play a defensive role on Tadhg. Bevan may even play forward.
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              • connolly
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                • Aug 2005
                • 2461

                #37
                Originally posted by TheMase
                Leo to take Williams then?
                Probably and given that Williams is a very disinterested chaser Leo could be like the Energizer battery bunny and just run and run. Jack hopefully will be given Sam Mitchell. Interesting to see how the little man with the short fuse handles Cracker's pressure. It seems like we match up on them really well across the ground. Franklin rates B2 as his toughest opponent.
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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #38
                  Originally posted by connolly
                  Interesting stat on Bevo - no opponent has picked up more that 10 touches in a match and no opponent has kicked more than 2 goals on him.
                  3 goals at least last weekend.
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                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • hammo
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5554

                    #39
                    Originally posted by connolly
                    Interesting stat on Bevo - no opponent has picked up more that 10 touches in a match and no opponent has kicked more than 2 goals on him. All this and he can can go forward and score goals.
                    So why was he moved off Thomas? As a defender he makes a good step ladder.
                    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #40
                      I think Kirk will get Mitchell and Ablett on Hodge. I think Jack will go to Bateman. Will Hawthorn put Sewell on Goodes.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • ugg
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        #41
                        Sewell is unlikely to play. Will be interesting to see who they play on Goodes if Sewell doesn't play.
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                        • SimonH
                          Salt future's rising
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 1647

                          #42
                          Bevan is better played forward right now. As I think we've all come to realise in 2008, confidence is an even bigger issue for him than most footballers. You don't want someone down on confidence mixing it with the Hawthorn attack; but it only takes a couple of marks and kicks up forward and you have your confidence back. As Jarrad McVeigh discovered earlier in the year.

                          Jack can play BP as a first option on Williams, and if Luke Ablett must be in the starting 18 at all, he can go on the wing.

                          Even though I'm highly dubious whether Goodes will actually spend more than 2 seconds of the match at CHF, I like the look of him there on a bigger ground like the MCG.

                          I think starting Malceski on the bench is a good idea. Ask him to go flat-chat for 50-60 minutes and see if he's up to it, rather than looking proppy and uncertain for closer to 100 minutes.

                          Trusting that B2 will take Franklin, Roughead is I think our biggest individual match-up. (The 2 teams' midfield operate very much as groups, so the individual who's-on-who doesn't matter so much unless there's tagging going on.) Richards is in good form I think, and so give him a go with LRT as a back-up if we get desperate. Whenever we have the choice, Leo is better taking the creative role down back rather than trying to wrastle some gorilla 15cm taller than him.

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                          • connolly
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 2461

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hammo
                            So why was he moved off Thomas? As a defender he makes a good step ladder.
                            Thomas kicked two goals on our other form back flanker and used him as a step ladder as well - Mattner. Bevo was moved onto Thomas because Mattner was well beaten by him in the first quarter. He kicked one gaol on Bevo and his influence faded after the first quarter. He was moved back onto Medhurst after half time after Medhurst looked damgerous. Makes sense to put the best small defender on the oppositions most dangerous players.
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                            • connolly
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2461

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SimonH
                              Whenever we have the choice, Leo is better taking the creative role down back rather than trying to wrastle some gorilla 15cm taller than him.
                              So leo on Williams then? Jack pressuring Mitchell and running off him would replicate the job he did on Kerr. Give him their best mid and lets see what happens. Bevo on Guerra - he better have some extra stength glue under the wig as the tackling will be fierce
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                              • Pace To Burn
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 748

                                #45
                                Bird played on Mitchell in the pre season and towelled him up. Has also been named on the wing to start so maybe he will go to him in rotation with ablett
                                The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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