I don't deny that there are elements of luck involved in football (duh) but for someone to suggest that the competition is so even that Premierships can be won due to luck is a joke.
							
						
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 I don't recall suggesting that.Originally posted by Sanecow
 I don't deny that there are elements of luck involved in football (duh) but for someone to suggest that the competition is so even that Premierships can be won due to luck is a joke.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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 "Of course there was a lot of luck" is not suggesting they won only because of luck. It suggests luck helped a lot and it was in response to someone who refused to believe there was luck.
 
 "so why did they not win the year before... " - if you can't recognise sarcasm after all this time... time for to return...
							
						Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat. to return...
							
						Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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 Oh, Cow, you wouldn't like to contradict against people like NMWBloods. Surely he knows better than anyoneelse that the swans will grace the bottom of the ledder again. That is his righteous mission and gratification for spending his "fortune" on bets for finishing the Swans last in the competition.  Comment
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 Oh FFS...Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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 The question is: Did they have more "luck" than any other team in the finals? My answer is: No.Originally posted by NMWBloods
 "Of course there was a lot of luck" is not suggesting they won only because of luck. It suggests luck helped a lot and it was in response to someone who refused to believe there was luck.
 
 
 Suck it up, Princess.Originally posted by NMWBloods
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 Luck doesn't exist nor does fate, destiny or any of that other pre-ordained keek.
 
 The team that wins games and scores goals/points in the most significant numbers at the most significant times wins.Ar aghaidh chun bua 2007!Comment
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 You're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong...after all you did say cricket wasn't a sportOriginally posted by Eala ?ireann
 Luck doesn't exist nor does fate, destiny or any of that other pre-ordained keek.
 
 The team that wins games and scores goals/points in the most significant numbers at the most significant times wins. Does God believe in Atheists? Does God believe in Atheists?Comment
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 You think that Nicks and Maxfield would have been better than Braun and Kerr?Originally posted by Sanecow
 The question is: Did they have more "luck" than any other team in the finals? My answer is: No.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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 He never said that an element of luck is not needed to win a Premiership. Oh for the love of God where is that roll eyes. And yes they did win because of skill and determination. They are a necessary component in any Premiership of any sport of any level. Thank you.Originally posted by NMWBloods
 Well that just about does it then - there was no luck involved and the Swans won purely because of skill and determination... hmmm so why did they not win the year before... oh well, we should win the next 3 or 4 if luck doesn't count...An instrument with only 9 notes! Surely it's easy to play?
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 Well that's football isn't it.Originally posted by NMWBloods
 You think that Nicks and Maxfield would have been better than Braun and Kerr?An instrument with only 9 notes! Surely it's easy to play?
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 Thanks genius - yes this is what football is and the circumstances where some players get injured and some don't is affected a great deal by luck.Originally posted by Piobaireachd
 Well that's football isn't it.
 
 I never said skill and determination were not involved, just not the sole reason. Luck has a major part to play, predominantly through injuries.
 
 Sanecow said - "I think the word "luck" is used as an insult. What were the specifically lucky events that led to the Swans' Premiership?" - ie: he can't see anything lucky in the win.
 
 Subsequently modified to "I don't deny that there are elements of luck involved in football (duh) but for someone to suggest that the competition is so even that Premierships can be won due to luck is a joke." which I didn't disagree with.
 
 Of course, then we get some insightful observations from the peanut gallery...Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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 I think the loss of Braun and injury to Kerr would push the luck element in favour of the Swans.Originally posted by Sanecow
 The question is: Did they have more "luck" than any other team in the finals? My answer is: No.
 
 Ah, I can see that you're struggling now - trying schoolboy insults.Suck it up, Princess.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
 
 "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment

 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	
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