Dumb punters

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Losing Doyle, he who has played 40 games in 6 years plus only 1 game in 2005, and replacing him with either of Ball or Jolly, who had both played all year, was hardly a major negative.

Braun, had played every game averaging 22dpg, and was replaced by Sam Butler, who had 2 handballs in the GF, and is only in his second season and managing 12dpg.

Not really an even exchange. But no benefit of luck there.

You have a very twisted perspective on luck. The Swans lost their #2 ruckman in round 1 while the Eagles had Braun until the Preliminary Final. Which is more fortunate?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sanecow
You have a very twisted perspective on luck. The Swans lost their #2 ruckman in round 1 while the Eagles had Braun until the Preliminary Final. Which is more fortunate?

The combination of Ball, Jolly and Goodes was very effective in the ruck, plus Doyle has not been a critical element of the Swans' success. Who do you think would have been left out of the side if Doyle had played?

The only way our team could have been stronger is for Maxfield to have replaced Bevan.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The combination of Ball, Jolly and Goodes was very effective in the ruck, plus Doyle has not been a critical element of the Swans' success. Who do you think would have been left out of the side if Doyle had played?

Possibly Jolly (broken hand) in the Grand Final or an earlier game. Who knows.

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The only way our team could have been stronger is for Maxfield to have replaced Bevan.

With 100% fit squad:
In: Nicks, Maxfield, Doyle (?).
Out: Dempster, Bevan, Jolly (?).

Butler (16 possessions), played better than Braun (8 possessions) in round 17 when the Swans played the Eagles so I don't think it was that much of a loss for them.

[Piobaireachd]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
With arguments like Doyle is comparable to Braun, "luck schmuck", "boo boo on shin", Swans players could continue with a tendon ripped from the bone, Skylab didn't kill Ball, and Hall didn't touch Maguire, plus the masterful and cogent arguments in support from Piobaireachd and Zlatorog, how could I compete. Of course there was no luck in the premiership win...

Oh shut up duckhead and stop bringing me in to your argument.

I said my piece early on by saying I agreed with Sanecow, you took offence to it and threw a hissy fit. You then go on to continually rubbish me in front of every viewer with your sarcastic wit. How droll \rolleyes. Just where do u get off? My guess is right in front of your keyboard.

You want to have a go at me you do it via PM.

I do not appreciate being personally attacked on these or any forums. Naturally, I will respond. If the mods don't like what I have to say in retaliation... well stiff! That's what the banning rule is there for. But just remember, it takes two to tango. There's too much favouritism that goes on in this forum anyway. Rules that apply to one person never seem to apply to others.

Thank you.

[Pommie Swannie]

Perhaps of greater impact for the eagles was the loss of Matera, given their inability to convert?

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by Pommie Swannie
Perhaps of greater impact for the eagles was the loss of Matera, given their inability to convert?

They should have played him.

Crouch stopped Judd. If Matera was there Crouch would have had to play on the little guy.

[floppinab]

Originally posted by anne
I hope we win our first 7 straight. Maybe that might shut them up. [/B]

Won't happen, you're forgetting our obligatory 3 game or greater losing streak between rounds 3 and 9.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Piobaireachd
stop bringing me in to your argument.

Then don't jump into my argument as you so often do.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Pommie Swannie
Perhaps of greater impact for the eagles was the loss of Matera, given their inability to convert?

I was wondering about Matera. He has struggled badly in finals, but he may have been a useful option in such a low-scoring game and been a distraction for Crouch who was badly needed on Judd.

[Pommie Swannie]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I was wondering about Matera. He has struggled badly in finals, but he may have been a useful option in such a low-scoring game and been a distraction for Crouch who was badly needed on Judd.

Given the amount of times the ball failed to stick inside 50 for the eagles, I think having Matera crumbing around would have caused the Swans defence a totally different problem. The eagles were just too one-dimensional up front on the day.

[Piobaireachd]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Then don't jump into my argument as you so often do.

I have as much right to state my opinion as you do u sanctimonious little man

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Piobaireachd
I have as much right to state my opinion as you do u sanctimonious little man

Then don't complain and say "stop bringing me in to your argument". Whenever I am involved your opinions are negative toward me, and have been since you joined, so don't cry "poor me I've been personally attacked".

BTW - 'u' is not a word.

[Sanecow]

I think Matera's omission was a massive mistake. I haven't re-watched the game but I thought the switch to a smaller forward line turned the game in the favour of the Eagles in the last quarter of the QF. I might be misremembering though, I don't have quarter-by-quarter stats at hand.

[Pommie Swannie]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I think Matera's omission was a massive mistake. I haven't re-watched the game but I thought the switch to a smaller forward line turned the game in the favour of the Eagles in the last quarter of the QF. I might be misremembering though, I don't have quarter-by-quarter stats at hand.

I agree, but I think the biggest mistake was holding out for as long as possible before pulling him from the 22. It seemed to me that they didn't plan for Matera not being available. Consequently when he had to be withdrawn they didn't really have a replacement and therefore had to change their game plan at the last minute.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I think Matera's omission was a massive mistake.

A stroke of luck by jove.