Dumb punters

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
As for making your own luck with injuries, certainly it can help with some, such as soft-tissue injuries, but it's hardly going to help if a guy falls and does his knee or breaks a leg.

In-game luck summary:

Swans:
Ball: Head wound
C. Bolton: Shoulder to the nose.
J. Bolton: Head wound
Crouch: Ankle (tore ankle ligaments at the start of last quarter).
O'Loughlin: Concussion

West Coast:
Kerr: Boo boo on the shin.

Pre-game luck:

Melbourne's Herald Sun on Tuesday (Sept. 27) on page 85 listed the Sydney players who played the Grand Final under "difficulties" ...

Leo Barry: triple cheekbone fracture (knock to the face would have meant emergency surgery).
Barry Hall: AC joint injury (unable to raise left arm the week of the Grand Final), played with painkillers.
Jude Bolton: AC joint injury after dislocating shoulder in Round 19 (has had two painkilling injections every game since).
Adam Schneider: triple cheekbone fracture (knock to the face would have needed surgery).
Ben Mathews: pinched nerve in his foot (had painkilling injections for the past 16 weeks to play).
Craig Bolton: chronic knee injury had painkilling injections for the past 10 weeks to play).
Darren Jolly: broken hand (played on painkillers for four weeks before finals).

Source

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sanecow
West Coast:
Kerr: Boo boo on the shin.

No bias there... And Braun couldn't possibly have played with his injury, so don't make ridiculous comparisons.

Playing through injuries as the Swans did is an amazing feat, but it's something that most other players in other teams do too. However, there are certain injuries you can't.

The most amazing Swan wrt injuries is Crouch, however he is quite exceptional.

[Sanecow]

Of course I'm biased. I don't recall any in-game injuries to Eagles other than Kerr. Do you?

Braun couldn't play, Doyle couldn't play. Luck shmuck.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sanecow
Braun couldn't play, Doyle couldn't play. Luck shmuck.

Yeah, that's a sensible comparison - how can I argue with that...

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Yeah, that's a sensible comparison - how can I argue with that...

Both injured seniors. Sorry Braun isn't a ruckman so you can dig up some stats.

[NMWBloods]

They're both people too...

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
They're both people too...

You have failed to put forward a convincing argument that the Swans had any more luck than the Eagles. It's been nice toying with you.

[Xie Shan]

Originally posted by Sanecow
You have failed to put forward a convincing argument that the Swans had any more luck than the Eagles. It's been nice toying with you.

What, not even a "Happy Birthday, Bloods"?

[NMWBloods]

With arguments like Doyle is comparable to Braun, "luck schmuck", "boo boo on shin", Swans players could continue with a tendon ripped from the bone, Skylab didn't kill Ball, and Hall didn't touch Maguire, plus the masterful and cogent arguments in support from Piobaireachd and Zlatorog, how could I compete. Of course there was no luck in the premiership win...

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by sydfan83
What, not even a "Happy Birthday, Bloods"?

I sent roses already.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I sent roses already.

I assumed they were an early Valentine's Day present.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
With arguments like Doyle is comparable to Braun,

If you want to underrate our squad or overrate the opposition, knock yourself out. It's quite trendy.

Originally posted by NMWBloods
"luck schmuck", "boo boo on shin",

"Get your hand off it".

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Swans players could continue with a tendon ripped from the bone,

I was referring to Kerr.

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Skylab didn't kill Ball

Fact.

Originally posted by NMWBloods
and Hall didn't touch Maguire

The footage was inconclusive.

Originally posted by NMWBloods
, plus the masterful and cogent arguments in support from Piobaireachd and Zlatorog, how could I compete. Of course there was no luck in the premiership win...

I am waiting on the immense list of injuries sustained by the Eagles in the Grand Final.

[NMWBloods]

Obviously you don't think WC losing one of their key midfielders before the game is a piece of good luck for the Swans.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Obviously you don't think WC losing one of their key midfielders before the game is a piece of good luck for the Swans.

I believe they used another player. Like the Swans using a ruckman with a broken hand to replace Doyle.

[NMWBloods]

Losing Doyle, he who has played 40 games in 6 years plus only 1 game in 2005, and replacing him with either of Ball or Jolly, who had both played all year, was hardly a major negative.

Braun, had played every game averaging 22dpg, and was replaced by Sam Butler, who had 2 handballs in the GF, and is only in his second season and managing 12dpg.

Not really an even exchange. But no benefit of luck there.