OFFICIAL Draft 2003 Thread

[liz]

Originally posted by Red

And worst of all, he went to <i>Collingwood</i> instead!

Lol - have to confess that I was almost hoping we'd take Morrison because the rumours were that Collingwood was exceedingly keen and it would have been great to have put their nose out. Even the Collingwood recruiting manager commented after the draft that he was holding his breath because he knew that Barham had been having a close look at Morrison.

[monopoly19]

Originally posted by Reggi
There are times when we should leave this stuff to the experts.

I couldn't agree more. As for Pettigrew/Morrison/every other drafted player, well there will always be guys who you look at in hindsight and wish you had drafted them. Then there's others who you never really expect to do much and who surprise us all with their ability to adapt their football skills to an AFL level. Personally, I can't wait to see how they all go.

[Reggi]

I just read earlier in this thread on Ericksen.

Maybe it's a little prejeduce - maybe it's bad previous experience, but when you saw the words "Scotch College" in the notes on him all you can do is groan and think "soft - dud".

I know Schaubs is a Xavier boy - but Scotch is no Assumption or Sacred Heart.

As soon as I read it for me he was completely written off.

Guess this may be a controversial (but truthful statement).

[SWANSBEST]

Reggi

I am not too familiar with the deficiencies of Scotch College boys but Brown from the Hawks does not lack much in the ticker department and he is an old Scotch boy. But dad Mal was a real madman and probably still is , so young Brown may have thrown to Dad rather than picking up grunt from Scotch .


Ericksen is 203 cm being the same height as Doyle but 14 kgs less so he will take years to develop . In this case we will need to be very patient.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by SWANSBEST
I am not too familiar with the deficiencies of Scotch College boys but Brown from the Hawks does not lack much in the ticker department and he is an old Scotch boy.

Scotch boys used to be a key part of the Hawthorn power sides of the 70s and 80s. Not sure where they've gone of late.

[NMWBloods]

Re: Re: Re: Amon Buchanon at # 45?

Originally posted by lizz
Maybe I'm looking too hard for an explanation for the Buchanan decision but one plausible reason is that it was a move to buy them time. You'd have to think they'd made their mind up on Davis at our last pick and redrafting Buchanan must have been pretty much set in stone. That meant they just had the one decision to make at 45. They took their extra 2 minute allowance and used most of that up before they called out Amon's number. My guess is that they were still mulling over who else to take with their one 'live' pick left and decided to buy themselves a few more minutes by choosing Buchanan at 45 rather than 47.

I find this reason a bit hard to swallow. They had nearly a quarter hour break between their previous pick at no 29 and no 45, so surely they would have worked out in that time (plus the pre-planning) who they would have chosen.

[Reggi]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Scotch boys used to be a key part of the Hawthorn power sides of the 70s and 80s. Not sure where they've gone of late.

Where there?

I think Langford was a grammar boy - but Brereton Mathews Knights Ayres these guys were from the penninsula and gippsland, don't remember many being from Scotch College.

Not disagreeing - I just cannot think of any.

I know St Kevin's across the river has a good record (including our own O'Keefe (one year it had the Scott twins Simon Garlick and Stephan Powell musta been a fair side).

[Plugger46]

Happy with our picks. Very happy to see Buchanan back on the list, as I rate him.

I can't believe some people are unhappy about another ruckman. You can never have too many of them. Ruckman historically get more injuries than players that play in other positions do. Look at our big men this year. Goodesy was the only one who wasn't injured at some point.

Ball: Dislocated his shoulder
Doyle: Missed most of the year with a knee injury
Meiklejohn: Broke his jaw
LRT: I think missed a game with injury too.

We were desperately looking for genuine ruckmen after Ball went down, so for the life of me, I can't work out why people would be unhappy about that. And remember Ball is getting on, Doyle may be injured again, and Meiklejohn may not come up as expected. We have a CHB in the making, I speak of LRT. Schauble at FB. So I don't think our Key defender side of things, is that bad. Who knows, we might snare someone in the PSD?

[robbieando]

Re: Re: Amon Buchanon at # 45?

Originally posted by jimmytootle
Robbieando had Pettigrew rated at # 20 and the AFL Phantom Draft had him rated at # 31

Personally, you should use my Phantom Draft as a solid example of why we should of picked a player, as I had pointed out before, the Top 10 were pretty much set in stone, after that the book goes out the window.

The reason I have Pettigrew so high was because I felt a Perth club would take him, but I was of the belief that if not picked up by a Perth club, he would fall late 3rd round - early 4th Round. Personally I wouldn't of pick him myself over a Gayfer or Johnson because he has more filling out to do, than those 2. But then again Gayfer and Johnson didn't get picked up so that shows how much I know.

I'm not crying in my beer about this one and it will be at least 3 years before any of us are proven right or wrong.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Red
Yes, of course we need quality ball-winning inside-midfielders -- and if we got them well and good. But these guys are just so <i>small</i> -- realistically it's going to take years for them to come on.

But to get inside midfielders you have to bear that in mind and frankly the inside midfielders ready to play next year, were gone before we had a chance to get them. At the moment, we have Jude Bolton who will step up even more I feel with a more senior role in the midfield and Brett Kirk will see less game time as a tagger and will share replacing Cressa with Schneider and Crouch. So I think we can wait on the 2 we got yesterday.

Meanwhile, we let a KPP that could possibly start his senior career next season go to Collingwood. Obviously he wouldn't be replacing the guys you mention, Robbie. But it only takes one or two of them to go down (and they invariably will) and suddenly we look a bit short. We are not so well endowed in the KP stakes that it's a "not a need we needed to fill"

A very good point but I don't think that Morrison would of been the answer, as he has just missed an entire season of footy and still has some filling out to do. Plus the club rarely gives debuts to 1st year players. Personally I would of rathered the other Morrison in the draft, who is a ready made replacement if one of our talls go down, but I feel the fact he put a price on his head, ruled us out. Anyway, I'm not going to lose sleep over this one, as Morrison wouldn't of filled a direct need, where as Willoughby did.

I guess what I meant was, as we probably would've got Schmidt anyway, we passed on a potentially ready-to go KPP in favour of a development on-baller.

Anyway I don't see what is so great about Morrison, he isn't as ready to go as you think and he is mainly (and I mean mainly) a forward.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by Red

Yes, of course we need quality ball-winning inside-midfielders -- and if we got them well and good. But these guys are just so <i>small</i> -- realistically it's going to take years for them to come on.

I disagree, Red. It tooks Schneider two years to come up good. He is bottom-age too I believe. These two kids by all reported are highly skilled so I could see some similarity to Schneider's case. Not playing style-wise but from a potential point of view. Let's wait and see.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Reggi
Where there?

I think Langford was a grammar boy - but Brereton Mathews Knights Ayres these guys were from the penninsula and gippsland, don't remember many being from Scotch College.

Not disagreeing - I just cannot think of any.

Off the top of my head, I can think of Polkinghorne, Hendrie, Loveridge, Maginness, and I'm sure there were a few others that I can't recall. I should have said "provided some key players." Certainly not renowned for filling the side with lots of great players, but a few useful ones, which is what I was meaning.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by Newbie
I disagree, Red. It tooks Schneider two years to come up good. He is bottom-age too I believe.

It didnt take Schneids two years to come good he was injured for the most part last year.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by Plugger46
we might snare someone in the PSD?

I doubt we will use our pre-season pick as we used 5 picks in the national, prove me wrong someone.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
I doubt we will use our pre-season pick as we used 5 picks in the national, prove me wrong someone.

We don't have any places left on our list, hence we don't have a PSD pick.

5 players came off the list of 37, 6 came on (James, Meiklejohn, Willoughby, Schmidt, Erickson and Davis)... adds up to 38.